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Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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post #3

What does a Facebook app offer over just giving the website notification permissions in Chrome or Firefox?

Personally, I like being able to Cmd+tab to commonly-used chat apps. Really hard to have a conversation (while doing other stuff) when you have to Cmd+tab to Chrome, and then find the tab.

In general is there a good browser extension or something for a "browser chat tab" that you keep open and don't want to manage as a normal browser tab/window? With a pulse-on-change feature?

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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post #3

What does a Facebook app offer over just giving the website notification permissions in Chrome or Firefox?

Personally, I like being able to Cmd+tab to commonly-used chat apps. Really hard to have a conversation (while doing other stuff) when you have to Cmd+tab to Chrome, and then find the tab.

I would personally love it if Chrome tabs showed up in Spotlight. Then, ⌘+Space "slack" would either open up the app or the tab, no sweat. :-)

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I like being able to Cmd+tab to commonly-used chat apps. Really hard to have a conversation (while doing other stuff) when you have to Cmd+tab to Chrome, and then find the tab.

In general is there a good browser extension or something for a "browser chat tab" that you keep open and don't want to manage as a normal browser tab/window? With a pulse-on-change feature?

Could be a good use case for tab pinning, I suppose. Not quite what you're looking for though.

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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The real story here is that now we know what Osmeta, the stealth startup Facebook acquired a few years ago, has been up to. Look inside the installation directory for the Messenger app, and you'll find that it's using an iOS compatibility layer. Unfortunately, that's bad news in terms of accessibility for blind users, at least in its current form; this thing isn't firing any focus events. But I'm sure that can be fix…

It it doing binary compatibility with iOS apps or just some cross-compilation approach?

Don't have access to a Windows machine and if this is the mentality behind getting apps on the platform, not sure there's any reason to change that.

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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post #24

The real story here is that now we know what Osmeta, the stealth startup Facebook acquired a few years ago, has been up to. Look inside the installation directory for the Messenger app, and you'll find that it's using an iOS compatibility layer. Unfortunately, that's bad news in terms of accessibility for blind users, at least in its current form; this thing isn't firing any focus events. But I'm sure that can be fix…

It it doing binary compatibility with iOS apps or just some cross-compilation approach? Don't have access to a Windows machine and if this is the mentality behind getting apps on the platform, not sure there's any reason to change that.

The iOS APIs were reimplemented on Windows. The binaries are DLLs, with a few small EXEs as entry points, but the filenames make it obvious what's going on.

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel that way about every windows and linux app, though. Adium on OS X was brilliantly designed. And if you didn't like the design, there were tons of skins for it.

Skinning support != user experience. That said, Adium is one of the best designed OSS apps I've used.

Adium OTR on the other-hand had a really bad UX. So I'm happy TextSecure/Signal figured that out.

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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Remember when all the major IM platforms supported xmpp and you could just use pidgin/adium/trillian/your client of choice for everything at once? That was a fantastic time...

Pidgin's facebook plugin doesn't seem to parse thumbs up or images, but works well enough other than that. Google hangouts/chat plugin works well, too.

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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post #3

What does a Facebook app offer over just giving the website notification permissions in Chrome or Firefox?

Personally, I like being able to Cmd+tab to commonly-used chat apps. Really hard to have a conversation (while doing other stuff) when you have to Cmd+tab to Chrome, and then find the tab.

So you need an app because OS X's window manager is terrible.

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

#29

Remember when all the major IM platforms supported xmpp and you could just use pidgin/adium/trillian/your client of choice for everything at once? That was a fantastic time...

I remember it as a bunch of applications that supported half of the standards, were buggy, and had clunky fits-none-well UX

But the solution was to come up with something better, not something worse.

Re: Introducing Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram Windows Apps

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post #2

This is exactly what I needed. Now I have a Telegram, HipChat, Slack, Skype, and now FB apps. I think my computer is complete.

Time for the next Trilian/Adium/Pidgin.

Franz is the closest I've seen to that recently: http://www.meetfranz.com/. It supports Slack, WhatsApp, WeChat, HipChat, Facebook Messenger, Telegram, Google Hangouts, GroupMe, Skype amongst others.
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