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Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by tobltobs »

whatok wrote: post #15
tobltobs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> first ones to break or provide color on important stories. No question about the color, but do you have an example for those "break on important stories".

Little old but this is the first example I could think of but this was absolutely not covered in depth by any mainstream outlet http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-26/coming-soon-theater...

That is not a break on an import story. It would have been if they would have posted this before Moody downgraded Zohars. This is nothing else then some collections of freely available news mixed together with some pubertal slang. And their included predictions have a bad hit rate, even for ZH standards.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by Blackthorn »

nxzero wrote: post #4

>> "Bloomberg LP competes with Zero Hedge in providing financial news and information." Translation: "Yes, we're attacking the competition." _____ Reply-To-Comments-Below: All editors make choices, and to me, this was the wrong choice. All this does in validate ZeroHedge is a threat and makes Bloomberg look like a wannabe thug. Beyond that, appears ZeroHedge made something of this disclaimer too: http://www.zerohedge…

Plus it competes in the sense that an elephant competes with a squirrel for food.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by jazzyk »

rmah wrote: post #19
chollida1 wrote: post #7

If no one has been to the site before here it is: http://www.zerohedge.com/ Believe it or not it has a huge following in the finance world due to it often being one of the first ones to break or provide color on important stories. It's not uncommon at all to see a row of traders with tweet deck open allocating a single column to Zero hedge, they are just that prolific with their output. The downside of the site is th…

Regarding the "huge following"... Yes, lots of people read it, send links to friends, etc. But, most of the time those links are sent for comedy or shock value, not because people think it's serious news. To use an analogy, zerohedge is like the 4chan of the finance world.

If there is shock value, it is because ZH focuses on facts (yes, they are usually well documented facts), which the so called mainstream media chooses to ignore, because the narrative does not suit their corporate owners.

Most of ZH's reporting is backed by numbers coming from other sources. They also report rumors ahead of everyone else, which seem implausible, but later turn out to be facts and reported by other outlets.

Yes, they have topic selection bias, but so does everyone else.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by alistproducer2 »

maze-le wrote: post #16

I stopped reading this site some years ago. It had, and probably still has some interesting opinins and analysis. Most content is pretty far fetched / sensationalist, but if you have your grain of salt, this is not a problem, since most media outlets do this in one form or another. About 2 years ago the tenor of the publications shifted from libertarian to more and more reactionary (bordering on proto-fascist). When…

My thoughts exactly. I was a daily reader of ZH going back to its very beginning. The tone of it's articles and comments became unbearable ~2011 so now I only go there a couple times a year out of nostalgia.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by whatok »

tobltobs wrote: post #21
whatok wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Little old but this is the first example I could think of but this was absolutely not covered in depth by any mainstream outlet http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-26/coming-soon-theater...

That is not a break on an import story. It would have been if they would have posted this before Moody downgraded Zohars. This is nothing else then some collections of freely available news mixed together with some pubertal slang. And their included predictions have a bad hit rate, even for ZH standards.

You're right, it's not breaking news. I misread your quote. Nonetheless, it was a decently done, freely available analysis done on a semi-esoteric topic that really would not be covered by anyone else. If you solely rely on any source for "predictions", let alone ZH, I don't know what to say. No one is ever going to claim that ZH made them rich.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by tobltobs »

shrikant wrote: post #17
tobltobs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> first ones to break or provide color on important stories. No question about the color, but do you have an example for those "break on important stories".

I can't speak to the "important" in that claim, but the folks at ZH have friends and connections in the world of finance from whom they can get leaked communications and reports. For example, this post on Trump's nomination chances [1] draws heavily upon charts produced by Goldman Sachs, presumably for their clients only. [1] http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-20/can-trump-win-gener... Edited to add : I also know…

That is also not an break on an important story. Just some analysis again.

But yes, those leaked reports on ZH are interesting. Problem is they also publish lots of stuff from disputable sources. At the end you don't know what to take serious on this website, which results in an entropy of about zero.

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by emodendroket »

nxzero wrote: post #4

>> "Bloomberg LP competes with Zero Hedge in providing financial news and information." Translation: "Yes, we're attacking the competition." _____ Reply-To-Comments-Below: All editors make choices, and to me, this was the wrong choice. All this does in validate ZeroHedge is a threat and makes Bloomberg look like a wannabe thug. Beyond that, appears ZeroHedge made something of this disclaimer too: http://www.zerohedge…

I mean, I think it would have been fine not to include a disclaimer at all; you'd have to be an idiot not to realize that. But what is wrong with this one? Or do you just want them to pretend nobody else exists?

Re: Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge

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Post by lowpro »

It's funny that one of the largest flag theory sites, sovereign man, refers to zerohedge almost exclusively for political and financial theories. I thought they were actually run by the same person(s) for a time.

When I came across zerohedge about 2 years ago, it looked like they were bearish all the time, and right less than half the time. I think people see what's right and don't pay attention to when it's wrong.

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