At least that's my impression of employee owned businesses, it seems like a smart economic move.
At Chobani, Now It’s Not Just the Yogurt That’s Rich
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do things that don't scale. Thats what working capital is for.
Is "hire many people" one of the things that falls under "things that don't scale"? I kind of thought that meant more like the opposite. In any event, I wasn't maligning Chobani, just expressing my surprise.
I think your mind is a little bit stuck in the SF bubble.
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#23That's a bold move by this Curdish founder. I think it's a good whey to promote a positive company culture. Possibly reduce employee churn as well.
Edit: Just found HN's hatred for puns. Got it.
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#24Congrats, but I'm always blown away at the size of some companies. Do you really need 2000 people to make yogurt? Airplanes are big complex systems, so I get that, but yogurt? Edit: Apparently I rubbed some folks the wrong way. I didn't mean to think I could do better, I just meant it's a wild thought that something so "simple" as yogurt could require so many people to make. You guys probably know about "I, Pencil",…
Logistics & Supply chain, QA and inspections, Sales and account operations, marketing, finance, corporate dev/biz dev. And at Chobani's scale, middle management for all of these categories. I can see 2000 people being realistic.
(By contrast Proctor and Gamble has about 110,000 employees.)
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#25Congrats, but I'm always blown away at the size of some companies. Do you really need 2000 people to make yogurt? Airplanes are big complex systems, so I get that, but yogurt? Edit: Apparently I rubbed some folks the wrong way. I didn't mean to think I could do better, I just meant it's a wild thought that something so "simple" as yogurt could require so many people to make. You guys probably know about "I, Pencil",…
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#26As a thought experiment, I wonder what might go well or poorly in this case?
The publicity is great. Employee loyalty from gratitude and vesting. It may afford a near-term competitive advantage from capabilities like increased willingness to work overtime or rallying together during an opportunity/crisis. Real information may flow more freely as employees feel a safety/pride of ownership and connection to management.
How will new employees feel about working alongside someone with much greater compensation? Existing employees may immediately face this - since shares were dolled out by tenure, employees with several years' tenure may see themselves as rich vs. newer folks and vice versa.
As vesting completes, experienced employees may depart as they become financially independent. Or perhaps the windfall will inspire lifetime loyalty.
Will there be problems at competitors, whose employees are marginally less satisfied, knowing their counterparts at Chobani are treated so well?
Overall an inspiring and kind program. I'm excited to see it play out.
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#27Congrats, but I'm always blown away at the size of some companies. Do you really need 2000 people to make yogurt? Airplanes are big complex systems, so I get that, but yogurt? Edit: Apparently I rubbed some folks the wrong way. I didn't mean to think I could do better, I just meant it's a wild thought that something so "simple" as yogurt could require so many people to make. You guys probably know about "I, Pencil",…
Years ago, when I saw my company had The Blue Man Group on the books as a client and they employed ~400 people I was quite surprised. Then I got to thinking about the operation, the numerous business avenues of rights management, the touring, and then it started to make sense. Personally I'd rather work for a company that can afford to expand along with demand and maintain quality rather than siphon off cash and stuf…
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#28Congrats, but I'm always blown away at the size of some companies. Do you really need 2000 people to make yogurt? Airplanes are big complex systems, so I get that, but yogurt? Edit: Apparently I rubbed some folks the wrong way. I didn't mean to think I could do better, I just meant it's a wild thought that something so "simple" as yogurt could require so many people to make. You guys probably know about "I, Pencil",…
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#30Thinking back to the fellow who gave all of his employees a raise to $70K, parts of that ended up going badly for him. As a thought experiment, I wonder what might go well or poorly in this case? The publicity is great. Employee loyalty from gratitude and vesting. It may afford a near-term competitive advantage from capabilities like increased willingness to work overtime or rallying together during an opportunity/cr…
Profit sharing and employee ownership aren't really new concepts. Lots of different companies have been providing such opportunities for a long time, especially for senior employees, so it's unlikely to be controversial.