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Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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"Intel has not specified the TDP of its new processors" Left out the one piece of info I was most interested in.

What is the threshold you're looking for? I know the principle engineer of this project and may be able to give a yes/no answer on whether the part is at/below.

Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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Why Linux in particular?

FreeBSD would work too. When talking about low cost computers adding a $120 Microsoft fee kind of defeats the purpose.

For me its less the money and more the performance. Windows eats processing power that I don't want to expend on a small processor. Sadly, battery performance on new hardware is often worse on Linux, so its a tradeoff.

Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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I have been wondering if this will be good enough for most Office PC. You have the latest Gen 9 GPU, which could do GPU acceleration on most browsers and OS rendering. H.264 / H.265 and Vp9 Hardware decoding.

If, the Goldmont offer a decent IPC improvement, this could very well fit 90% of Office PC use case. Despite being lower price, it could offer higher margin for all parties.

Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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"Intel has not specified the TDP of its new processors" Left out the one piece of info I was most interested in.

What is the threshold you're looking for? I know the principle engineer of this project and may be able to give a yes/no answer on whether the part is at/below.

Ideally < 5 watt so it can be fanless

Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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FreeBSD would work too. When talking about low cost computers adding a $120 Microsoft fee kind of defeats the purpose.

OEMs don't pay a $120 fee to Microsoft. I have seen quite a few laptops online where getting Linux pre-installed is actually more expensive than getting Windows. You can get them without OS, but then good luck getting everything to work.

That's because OEMs have to pay Microsoft for all devices sold, not all devices with Windows pre-installed. They get a better per device deal that way, but it also makes sure the version without Windows is not cheaper.

Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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Another platform for which to overcharge customers and OEMs by $70-$120 by using the names "Celeron" and "Pentium", for what is essentially a $30 mobile chip. And they use the name "Lake" in there, too, to make people think it has anything to do with the Skylake and Kaby Lake platforms (which it doesn't from a CPU point of view - Intel stopped using the Core architecture for Celerons with the Haswell version). When I…

> AMD is still behind in power consumption

This is the reason why Intel can charge anything the market is able to bear. Phones, tablets, laptops, convertibles, and servers are all power-constrained. The remaining market suitable for AMD does not look too good.

Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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Another platform for which to overcharge customers and OEMs by $70-$120 by using the names "Celeron" and "Pentium", for what is essentially a $30 mobile chip. And they use the name "Lake" in there, too, to make people think it has anything to do with the Skylake and Kaby Lake platforms (which it doesn't from a CPU point of view - Intel stopped using the Core architecture for Celerons with the Haswell version). When I…

A lot of people don't even know what Pentium or Celeron is.. And the ones who do will propably check online reviews ;)

I don't know anyone who really cares what is inside the computer. They care that office works quicker, they can browse the web and for schools that the computer will run minecraft.

Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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Another platform for which to overcharge customers and OEMs by $70-$120 by using the names "Celeron" and "Pentium", for what is essentially a $30 mobile chip. And they use the name "Lake" in there, too, to make people think it has anything to do with the Skylake and Kaby Lake platforms (which it doesn't from a CPU point of view - Intel stopped using the Core architecture for Celerons with the Haswell version). When I…

Does AMD have integrated graphics to match or outperform Intel's offering?

Re: Intel Unveils New Low-Cost PC Platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the threshold you're looking for? I know the principle engineer of this project and may be able to give a yes/no answer on whether the part is at/below.

Ideally < 5 watt so it can be fanless

Cherry Trail has a 2W SDP (~4W TDP) so I'd expect something similar.

Given Core Y can be cTDP'd down to 3.5W, Apollo Lake would be completely pointless at more than 5W.

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