The Obama Administration Has Embraced Legal Theories Broader Than John Yoo's

Post by mercurialshark » Thu, Apr 07, 2016, 8:17 PM UTC

wavefunction wrote: post #5

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I wish more university rankings would have the results of their students held against them. An exit test of abilities, logic, and knowledge would be a great ranking system. Additionally, when Presidents claim to be constitution law focused and fail in almost all of the concepts of following the constitution, the professors have failed and the department should be redacted down, similar to the division system in socce…

Perhaps one should consider if a "constitutional scholar" is the perfect candidate to dismantle the Constitution bit by bit rather than someone who holds true to whatever your definitions of "Constitutional" are. I'll admit I voted for the guy the first time, but I was hoping for some significant differences in what we ended up with. Partially the fault of the obstructionist opposing party as well.

Post by CWuestefeld » Thu, Apr 07, 2016, 8:38 PM UTC

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When he was elected, I was happy, perhaps he could enact the changes that needed to be made to reign in some of the spying, ridiculous defense contracts, and other items. I based this on the "not red or blue country" speech at the DNC convention. That hope passed quickly when he made the "I won" comment to the Republicans instead of just assuaging or listening to their now valid concerns. I would argue that the obstr…

> the healthcare act fiasco The Affordable Care Act was based on RomneyCare, which in turn was based on model legeslation from ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Counsel). They're a conservative organization that writes bills and gives them to republicans to propose. The republican reaction was just showmanship; a cry of indignation for the sake of the cameras.

Post by dmix » Thu, Apr 07, 2016, 9:09 PM UTC

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I don't think his actions have much to do with what he believes, despite his intentions the government must function as it functions. I think that Obama sincerely wanted to change things, but once he got the power he realized it wasn't possible, or he is a very convincing liar, so convincing that he believes himself what he said.

Or he can be just bad at leading changes.

Post by setpatchaddress » Thu, Apr 07, 2016, 9:23 PM UTC

Agustus wrote: post #9

wavefunction wrote: post #5

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Perhaps one should consider if a "constitutional scholar" is the perfect candidate to dismantle the Constitution bit by bit rather than someone who holds true to whatever your definitions of "Constitutional" are. I'll admit I voted for the guy the first time, but I was hoping for some significant differences in what we ended up with. Partially the fault of the obstructionist opposing party as well.

When he was elected, I was happy, perhaps he could enact the changes that needed to be made to reign in some of the spying, ridiculous defense contracts, and other items. I based this on the "not red or blue country" speech at the DNC convention. That hope passed quickly when he made the "I won" comment to the Republicans instead of just assuaging or listening to their now valid concerns. I would argue that the obstr…

Post by setpatchaddress » Thu, Apr 07, 2016, 9:27 PM UTC

randomgyatwork wrote: post #19

awinter-py wrote: post #2

I was really hoping that barack would be the con-law president. If uchicago hasn't moved down in the rankings because their prof. emeritus is so bad at 'rule of law in practice', there's something wrong with the ranking system. It's shocking to hear a guy who was a professional legal theorist argue that something is legal based on the fact that he ordered the DOJ to write a memo.

I don't think his actions have much to do with what he believes, despite his intentions the government must function as it functions. I think that Obama sincerely wanted to change things, but once he got the power he realized it wasn't possible, or he is a very convincing liar, so convincing that he believes himself what he said.