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Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Post by [deleted] »

Etheryte wrote: post #13
Aoyagi wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm yet to understand all the attention smartphones get. Perhaps there are users out there to whom it is appealing, but personally I don't see the need for the features they bring out like address books and instant messaging in the phone or taking photos. These are things I can already do using standalone applications or other devices. I would rather a phone be simple and most importantly reliable and fast.

I don't see you making a point that is relevant.

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Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Post by Etheryte »

Aoyagi wrote: post #18
Etheryte wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see you making a point that is relevant.

I thought it was pretty clear. Maybe I should have used "Swiss army knife" instead of smartphones? The point is that Vivaldi is a toolbox. Some people like toolboxes.

I wouldn't say it's a toolbox, it's just another browser with some more sugar strapped to it out of the box. Coming back to your smartphone analogy, it's just another smartphone with more stock apps that many users don't want at all.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Post by foota »

nice_byte wrote: post #16

Its UI is made with Javascript. As if I don't already have a bad enough time dealing with sloth websites, they have to pile it on. Not even worth a try.

Javascript is plenty fast, I don't see why you shouldn't use it to power a browser.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Post by tauchunfall »

nice_byte wrote: post #16

Its UI is made with Javascript. As if I don't already have a bad enough time dealing with sloth websites, they have to pile it on. Not even worth a try.

Microsoft Visual Studio Code's UI also runs on a JavaScript engine and it runs surprisingly fast.

Edit: Also Mozilla's Servo browser engine will use a web based user interface.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Post by mhd »

Now all we need is a more browser-centric variant of Electron, and we'll get all kinds of these Chrome "distributions". Here's one in Ember, here's one in Angular, here's one with vertical tabs...

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Post by jsmeaton »

dvdgsng wrote: post #6
Etheryte wrote: post #4

I'm yet to understand the hype. Perhaps there are users out there to whom it is appealing, but personally I don't see the need for the features they bring out like notes in the browser or stacking tabs next to one another. These are things I can already do using standalone applications or a window manager. I would rather a browser be simple and most importantly stable and fast.

There is no need to "understand the hype", as a) there is none and b) it mostly comes down to personal preferences. When you're happy with your current workflow using other tools - that's totally fine, good for you. But, you know, there are people out there who are really looking forward to an alternative Browser-UI that 1) is very fast, 2) has a lot of configuration/features the others lack and 3) does not require y…

I use Chrome as my main browser and the lack of vertical tabs is about the only thing that really frustrates me. It's almost enough to switch to Firefox.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Post by Etheryte »

Aoyagi wrote: post #20
onion2k wrote: post #15

One of the things that makes Vivaldi unique is that it is built on modern web technologies. We use JavaScript and React to create the user interface with the help of Node.js and a long list of NPM modules. Vivaldi is the web built with the web. By the looks of things Vivaldi is Chromium with a skin written using React, but there's no links to a repo or any API documentation as far as I can tell. The extensions page i…

FWIW there are bits of the code here, but I don't know what is the extent of it https://vivaldi.com/source/

The browser is proprietary, but includes open source components, without checking, what you've linked to above is probably just the open source bits.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

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Post by Gustomaximus »

SirNoobsAlot wrote: post #3

I'd be curious to see a comparison of this with the "big 3" (Chrome, Firefox, IE). And playing devil's advocate, why bother to make yet another browser?

Given the browser is one of the most used pieces of software, and we increasingly live our digital lives in to, the more competition the better. When was the last time you saw significant innovation in a browser? It seems a while, and I dont believe we're run out of things to improve. More competition is awesome.

And dont forget competition encourages the big browser companies to work together to maintain interoperability, not branching off to 'their software' trying to create a competitive moat or simply because they want to push the world in one direction with monopolistic power. If people have options it stops this typically negative behavior happening.

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