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Mailtrain.org, self-hosted open-source Mailchimp clone

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Re: Mailtrain.org, self-hosted open-source Mailchimp clone

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Post by andris9 »

awinter-py wrote: post #18

my (poor) understanding of email SaaS was that staying off blacklists is the value add, not the server code. is that wrong?

In case of Mailtrain, Sendy, MailWizz et al. you do not send messages directly but through a paid relay, so the blacklisting is not an issue. The price is usually quite low, for example using Amazon SES costs about $100 for million messages. If the volume is low as well, then several providers have generous free tiers available (SparkPost offers 100k free messages/month), so it might not cost anything at all. SaaS providers offer convenience – you do not have to install, maintain or upgrade anything, "it just works" but in the end most of these use also a relay provider like Amazon SES to do the actual delivery

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Post by shocks »

t3ra wrote: post #2

Can someone compare this to Sendy ?

I don't mean to slam the developers, but I use Sendy and have taken a peek under the hood. The code made me feel sick.

Functionality wise, it seems the same.

ninja edit: it made me sick because it was ugly, didn't feel secure, and it took me ages to make the changes I needed to make.

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Post by lemonade »

slig wrote: post #14

There's this really great (paid) software that is orders of magnitude better than Sendy. https://www.mailwizz.com/ Main differences: built using a PHP framework, has extensions support, works on SES and competitors and is cheaper.

You don't often see using PHP advertised as a desirable feature in any place where you could avoid it.

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Post by slig »

lemonade wrote: post #23
slig wrote: post #14

There's this really great (paid) software that is orders of magnitude better than Sendy. https://www.mailwizz.com/ Main differences: built using a PHP framework, has extensions support, works on SES and competitors and is cheaper.

You don't often see using PHP advertised as a desirable feature in any place where you could avoid it.

I wasn't clear. I mean that Mailwizz was built around a solid PHP framework [1], while Sendy is pure PHP.

[1] http://www.yiiframework.com/

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Post by slig »

JacobJans wrote: post #17
slig wrote: post #14

There's this really great (paid) software that is orders of magnitude better than Sendy. https://www.mailwizz.com/ Main differences: built using a PHP framework, has extensions support, works on SES and competitors and is cheaper.

It appears to have tons more features. Do you have any experience with it? If so, what is your use-case? Thank you!

I'm still testing it and it looks very solid. After going through the cod for a few hours, I'm pleasantly surprised.

One money saving feature: you can setup SES and Sparkpost, for instance, and configure it to send more emails from Sparkpost than through SES, that way you can save money using free 100k emails/month plan from Sparkpost.

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Post by the-dude »

justinator wrote: post #20

Also my Dada Mail Project is something I've been working on since 1999 . http://dadamailproject.com Self-hosted, works with Amazon SES. I have many clients that send many thousands of messages using the cheapest of Bluehost shared hosting accounts, when you also use Amazon SES as the mail service. (Things like Board of Realtors groups that post realty available to a discussion list)

Hi Justin

I have known your project for a very long time now.

Have you ever considered offering it as a SaaS ? Why not?

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Post by wprapido »

justinator wrote: post #20

Also my Dada Mail Project is something I've been working on since 1999 . http://dadamailproject.com Self-hosted, works with Amazon SES. I have many clients that send many thousands of messages using the cheapest of Bluehost shared hosting accounts, when you also use Amazon SES as the mail service. (Things like Board of Realtors groups that post realty available to a discussion list)

does it have wordpress plugin?
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