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Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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I applaud LambdaConf's decision, compared to Strange Loop which caved to bullying. Neoreaction is not a powerful movement. Attacking neoreaction is not punching up.

All their sponsors are pulling out, it remains to be seen if conf is still going to happen.

Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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I wonder if the original email was more about this point in the "Pledge": > That I shall not talk or act in ways that could make minority groups feel bullied, harassed, intimidated, stalked, stereotyped, or belittled; examples of minority groups include women, people of color, lesbians, gays, and people who are disabled, bisexual, transsexual, asexual, intersex, transgender, and gender-variant; It specifically talks…

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Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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I believe that “good” can only, ever mean, “I like it,” and bad can only, ever mean, “I don’t like it.” Morality, in my view, is just how we try to objectify what are inherently subjective personal preferences. This is... a ridiculously oversimplified caricature of atheistic philosophy, presumably now posted (as the original post predates the current controversy[0]) to imply the obviously incorrect syllogism that if…

> someone who's chosen to become a public figure by promoting racist violence

Maybe Mencius Moldbug is such a public figure, but Curtis Yarvin isn't. Mencius Moldbug was doxxed, not chosen to become a public figure. Do you support doxxing?

Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

#24
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this particular case it's the radical left that is irate, so yes. Also, in general the radical right (when this is used to refer to neoreaction) tends to just opine with long blog posts where they capitalise words like Tradition, Civilization and Enlightenment. They don't like to angrily point fingers as they feel this is unbecoming of gentlemen/women. (I'm being honest about their pretensions here.)

Attendees at Trump rallies are not exactly known for writing long blog posts, suggestively capitalized or not.

...? You are aware that all of this drama relates to the creator of Neoreaction, right?

That vein of the Right has little to do with Trump rallies. It's this kind of stuff: http://thefutureprimaeval.net/ (and more generally: http://www.socialmatter.net)

My description is apt.

Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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post #18

I am always amazed at how religion is such a hot and polarizing topic in the US. Political debates in the US presidential election are baffling at best and often utterly cringe-worthy. I don't even understand why someone would ask if a tech conference, a topic that has zero to do with religion, is 'for them too' because they're Christian? Is proselytizing part of the conference's aim? no? Then why even ask? Is it non…

Contex wise: This is because some many US events now have codes of conduct that play into identity politics.

Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attendees at Trump rallies are not exactly known for writing long blog posts, suggestively capitalized or not.

...? You are aware that all of this drama relates to the creator of Neoreaction, right? That vein of the Right has little to do with Trump rallies. It's this kind of stuff: http://thefutureprimaeval.net/ (and more generally: http://www.socialmatter.net ) My description is apt.

Thanks for the link and the clarification!

Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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post #15

I wonder if the original email was more about this point in the "Pledge": > That I shall not talk or act in ways that could make minority groups feel bullied, harassed, intimidated, stalked, stereotyped, or belittled; examples of minority groups include women, people of color, lesbians, gays, and people who are disabled, bisexual, transsexual, asexual, intersex, transgender, and gender-variant; It specifically talks…

> I wonder why the pledge explicitly talks about minority groups? Why not just say that there should be no bullying, harassment, etc. period. I think those groups are explicitly listed because not everyone believes all of those groups really exist. Similarly, some people believe that belonging to some of those groups is a choice. Further, I'd imagine that all of those groups will be minorities at LambdaConf, but not…

Well, some in the trans group consider being a woman a choice.

Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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post #13
post #6

Why not just reject a speaker if you think it will hurt ticket sales? You don't have a duty to stand up for free speech, or whatever. You host a conference, you protect your brand, and if people don't like it they can start their own.

This is the same principle that restaurants probably shouldn't reject homosexual people even if it may hurt sales.

"Leaders of the dark enlightment" is not a protected class.

Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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post #27
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wonder why the pledge explicitly talks about minority groups? Why not just say that there should be no bullying, harassment, etc. period. I think those groups are explicitly listed because not everyone believes all of those groups really exist. Similarly, some people believe that belonging to some of those groups is a choice. Further, I'd imagine that all of those groups will be minorities at LambdaConf, but not…

Well, some in the trans group consider being a woman a choice.

No, they consider your sex and gender to be determined by your brain, not by your body. Traditionally, society thinks that they have a choice. They have told us that they do not.

Re: Is LambdaConf for Conservative Christians, Too?

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post #9

I applaud LambdaConf's decision, compared to Strange Loop which caved to bullying. Neoreaction is not a powerful movement. Attacking neoreaction is not punching up.

Punching up or down doesn't matter in this case, as long as someone's punching.

Fascism is not something which should be left to fester.

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