2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results • Hacker News Board

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by myth_drannon » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 2:47 PM UTC

jinst8gmi wrote: post #13

Cshelton wrote: post #10

II. Most Loved 1. Rust 2. Swift That's interesting and cool. I have to agree myself.

Most loved top 5: 1. Rust 2. Swift 3. F# 4. Scala 5. Go

I would say "Most Hyped", perception of what we love is shaped by the internet opinions. I doubt many people do Rust as part of their job or even hobby projects. On the other hand Sharepoint and Objective-C is part of our day to day routine...

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by Delmania » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 2:51 PM UTC

mixedmath wrote: post #7

I remain as surprised as last year about the prevalence of Notepad++. My circles do not intersect these users, I think.

For Windows, Notepad++ fits nicely for situations where "I need more than Notepad, but less than an IDE". It's a great example of the a well done pieces of free software on Windows. I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by hitekker » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 2:53 PM UTC

> 10% of respondents self-identified as Ninjas. Real ninjas don’t tell you they’re ninjas. They just sneak up on you and slit your throat, which generally constitutes "hostile workplace environment."

Ah, good wit. Very nice write up!

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by suprfnk » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 2:59 PM UTC

Delmania wrote: post #22

mixedmath wrote: post #7

I remain as surprised as last year about the prevalence of Notepad++. My circles do not intersect these users, I think.

For Windows, Notepad++ fits nicely for situations where "I need more than Notepad, but less than an IDE". It's a great example of the a well done pieces of free software on Windows. I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++.

> I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++.

This ofcourse being entirely subjective.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by Jommi » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 3:00 PM UTC

What really hit me was the graph about valuing salary[1]

On one hand it looks like there is a drastic difference: Developers in Finland and Sweden don't care about their salary! But looking at the Y axis reveals that the difference from the mean is about 15 percentfigures.

On the other hand, even that is quite a lot. It also allows us to make sweeping statements like Finland's coders are undervalued (?) or that over half of the Developers in Finland or Sweden did not value Salary.

cool cool!

[1]https://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016#mon...

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by insulanian » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 3:01 PM UTC

Delmania wrote: post #22

mixedmath wrote: post #7

I remain as surprised as last year about the prevalence of Notepad++. My circles do not intersect these users, I think.

For Windows, Notepad++ fits nicely for situations where "I need more than Notepad, but less than an IDE". It's a great example of the a well done pieces of free software on Windows. I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++.

Multi-cursor in N++ is not even close to Sublime one.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by wyldfire » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 3:20 PM UTC

michaelmior wrote: post #2

> JavaScript is the most commonly used programming language on earth. Even Back-End developers are more likely to use it than any other language. I'm not convinced this conclusion applies to the software development community as a whole. s/earth/Stack Overflow/

I think it might actually be the case. It's a testament to how valuable it is to have a ubiquitous platform (especially one that's fairly uniform) on which to run your software.

But, sure, SO is extrapolating here.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by wyldfire » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 3:26 PM UTC

fweespee_ch wrote: post #20

> The average developer is 29.6 years old. The median is 27. Does anyone else find this concerning given all the talk of age bias in tech?

Well, even if there weren't a problem with age bias I would expect the median to be skewed lower. The details indicate that not all respondents are professionals. This could include youths, still in secondary school who are learning to program.

But if the age distribution of people is such that the median age of humans were 27, it shouldn't concern us that the median age of this population of survey respondents is 27. I don't know what the human population distribution is but I took a quick peek at the US census bureau and it seems to indicate much more young people than older. I suppose that shouldn't really be surprising.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by drakenot » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 3:26 PM UTC

suprfnk wrote: post #24

Delmania wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For Windows, Notepad++ fits nicely for situations where "I need more than Notepad, but less than an IDE". It's a great example of the a well done pieces of free software on Windows. I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++.

> I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++. This ofcourse being entirely subjective.

This really surprises me. What can N++ do that Vim or Emacs couldn't do? Or what is easier at least?

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by rawTruthHurts » Thu, Mar 17, 2016, 3:28 PM UTC

suprfnk wrote: post #24

Delmania wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For Windows, Notepad++ fits nicely for situations where "I need more than Notepad, but less than an IDE". It's a great example of the a well done pieces of free software on Windows. I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++.

> I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++. This ofcourse being entirely subjective.

As implied by "I've tried"