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Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by amaks »

partiallypro wrote: post #8

"Azure was eliminated since its a Linux-second cloud" I have a feeling this person never really dove into Azure, and just wrote it off because it had Microsoft services built in; and of course various sysadmins still have a strong bias against Microsoft, especially if they are Open Source advocates. Seems like the entire article is mostly just comparing AWS to GCP instead of giving an actual overview of the cloud lan…

Azure is also slower in block device speeds: http://www.cbronline.com/news/cloud/public/aws-vs-google-clo...

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by unusximmortalis »

obulpathi wrote: post #17
outside1234 wrote: post #12

This should really be titled "A comparison of AWS and GCP." It totally wrote off Azure (2nd in market size) because its a "Linux second" cloud (what does that even mean in a virtualized world). Also, you forgot to analyze support and SLAs around functionality. Good luck with GCP when something goes wrong or they decide to sunset a feature.

Support is much better on GCP than AWS. Reference: https://news.spotify.com/us/2016/02/23/announcing-spotify-in... One of the reasons why Spotify went with Google Cloud is because of their superior support.

ok but the point about the title still stands :)

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Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by StreamBright »

I am not sure about the technical merit of this link. Best of show:

"Google probably has the best networking technology on the planet."

How do we quantify this?

"This is important for several reasons. On EC2, if a node has a hardware problem, it will likely mean that you'll need to restart your virtual machine."

I would much rather create a service that can tolerate single node outages than relying on "live migrations". I am not sure what he meant by the SSD comparison, Amazon EBS that can be SSD but still it is a network mounted storage.

"Most of GCP's technology was developed internally and has high standards of reliability and performance."

Guess what AWS was developed for.

I like hand-wavy, articles as much as any other guy, but it seems to me they picked GCP and wrote an article to justify it, an cooked up some numbers with single dimension comparisons to make it look like scientific. I wish I was working on single dimension problems in real life, but it is always more complex than that. I am more interested in worst case scenarios and SLAs than micro-benchmark results when comparing cloud vendors. Discarding Azure was purely arbitrary, in fact, Azure is more than happy running Linux or other non-Windows operating systems, I am not sure where he got the idea of " Linux-second cloud".

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/running-freebsd-in-az...

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by StreamBright »

blakesterz wrote: post #19

Interesting read. Can someone explain this point to me? "Software-defined networking means that google.com appears to be one hop away" One hop from...? Everywhere? Each server? How does that help? I understand 'traceroute' but not where that single hop to Google comes in and why that's great.

He probably "measured" it within GCP. :)

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by neom »

This is the best post on this subject I've read in awhile. If you're building your application in a modern manner, half the stuff I see in ridiculous comparison posts shouldn't matter. Disposable infrastructure is a thing. If you're making a choice of "the best cloud" (k...) with that fact in mind you should mostly be considering cost over time and capability to innovate on core offerings. Given unit economics and the continual drop in price of commodity hardware, everything is going to become utility pricing, and services like lambda will help you optimize your costs. Personally I'd put all my chips on AWS over GCP.

Also, nice to see someone finally identify DigitalOcean as a B2C provider.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by jvehent »

gregmac wrote: post #9
dastbe wrote: post #3

Does this line strike anyone else as just not true based on their numbers? Quizlet is now the ~50th biggest website in the U.S.

Actually 150th in the US and 794th world-wide, according to Alexa: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/quizlet.com Not to say 150th isn't impressive or likely a lot of traffic.. but if you're going to post a number and claim like that, it should be accurate.

> Not to say 150th isn't impressive or likely a lot of traffic..

Ballpark, I'd say that's between 700 and 1,000 hits/second on the main frontend. I sort of doubt either AWS or GCP is so much faster than the other for this kind of load.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by dastbe »

obulpathi wrote: post #17
outside1234 wrote: post #12

This should really be titled "A comparison of AWS and GCP." It totally wrote off Azure (2nd in market size) because its a "Linux second" cloud (what does that even mean in a virtualized world). Also, you forgot to analyze support and SLAs around functionality. Good luck with GCP when something goes wrong or they decide to sunset a feature.

Support is much better on GCP than AWS. Reference: https://news.spotify.com/us/2016/02/23/announcing-spotify-in... One of the reasons why Spotify went with Google Cloud is because of their superior support.

Could you quote the line you're referencing? The key differentiator in that article sounds like data services (dataproc et al) and I don't see anything mentioning support.

Re: What's the Best Cloud? Probably GCP

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Post by keithb- »

abalos wrote: post #15
merb wrote: post #5

The Best Cloud is probably a combination of all. Since that would give you the highest Availability.

This really sounds like a "theoretical" best. Practically this sounds like a huge burden on developers.

Not trying to single you out (your statement is totally on point), but generally we need a word for this developer-centric view of Cloud. My kids write javascript and might be considered developers, but they don't have the faintest idea about operating systems, containers, services, or anything non-superficial in the stack let alone IAM, I18N, consensus, etc. Cloud is not any less of an operational model as it is a development platform.

Anyone else have to read "Madame Bovary" in high school? Maybe this focus on developer is a form of provincialism.

Come on: someone smarter than me must have coined this already.

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