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Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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When there is a device like this that I can walk into a store and play with before buying as well as have access to thousands of quality applications that make my life easier or more fun then I'll consider it a competitor to the iPad. Until then this is nothing more then a cool gadget that likely won't see the light of day inside any major retailer. The iPad is currently the only "tablet" that will ever see mass cons…

>The app store is unlike anything else out there,

If you run Ubuntu on the Adam, I'm pretty sure the internet w/o limitations > the app store.

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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The camera is one of those things that makes you say "why didn't I think of that first." I was kinda allergic to all the tablet hype that is surrounding the tech scene lately, but this really makes me consider one. I want one, actually.

Swiveling cameras are not a new idea, Sony picture books had one at least ten years ago: http://www.transmetazone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=381&#...

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This looks like it's going to be technically quite impressive versus the iPad: Pixel Qi screen[1024x600], multi-touch (plus a backside trackpad!), camera, 3 USB ports, running Android, Ubuntu, or Chromium, with a dual-core 1Ghz Tegra CPU + GPU. More specs: http://www.technoholik.com/news/exclusive-a-sneak-peek-at-th...

running Android, Ubuntu, or Chromium Then its not an iPad competitor or alternative. It might be a tablet, but it is not in the same market as Apple is in with the iPad. None of these three OS's is a drastic change from what a computer is or how a computer is currently used, which the iPad is shaping up to be.

Wait.. the iPad runs the same OS as the iPhone (slightly modified) and this tablet runs the same OS as the Droid (slightly modified). So how is this not directly comparable?

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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The camera is one of those things that makes you say "why didn't I think of that first." I was kinda allergic to all the tablet hype that is surrounding the tech scene lately, but this really makes me consider one. I want one, actually.

Swiveling cameras are not a new idea, Sony picture books had one at least ten years ago: http://www.transmetazone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=381&#...

He mentions in the video that he filed a patent for it not so long ago.

I suppose there might prove to be a few problems there that may ultimately end up delaying its release, or worse, killing it altogether.

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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This is exactly what I was hoping for from the Apple Tablet.

I agree with you to a degree. I would like the Apple Tablet to have those features except I want the Apple tablet to have the same screen that it does now. I know that a good portion of HN readers appreciate the difference between a TN Screen and the IPS screen that Apple is putting in the iPad. The epaper screen in this tablet is just not the way that apple wants to go with a tablet. It's also a direction that I don…

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Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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They are drastic changes from what most users are accustomed to, which is Windows, and I'm sure there will be some changes for the platform in the case of at least Ubuntu. iPad is not shaping up to be a "drastic change from ... how a computer is currently used". It's shaping up to be a computer you use on your couch that's controlled via touch screen instead of keyboard and mouse. Otherwise, it's basically the same c…

Otherwise, it's basically the same concept ... In that case, cell phones aren't a new concept. Its the same as talking to my neighbor, only through this speaker... Or maybe a car isn't a novel concept. It is, after all, the same as walking somewhere. Only slower. Or even a book. Its just another representation of stories that have been told verbally for thousands of years, after all. Sharing functional similarities i…

No, man, it's different. The iPhone/iPad isn't any kind of great boon or new magic thing.

Like, cars are much different than walking because while both are means of getting from one place to another place, the cars is several dozen times faster. That's a huge improvement in the "getting somewhere" field.

The same with cell phones. Cell phones are a huge boon because they allow you to call people almost anywhere. They eliminated the need for a hard telephone line, meaning you can now use your phone in thousands of places where you couldn't use a phone before, at least not without paying.

Now, what major game-changing feature does the iPad enable? Nothing, really. All of the major iPad apps could be performed on a laptop just as well. The touching might make the interface more humane, but it doesn't create such a universally, obviously superior thing. The fact that it's made for couch is nice, and nicer for couch computing than a laptop because of the design of its hardware, but it doesn't enable anything that wasn't possible before.

Some people might like or want an iPad, which is all fine, but it's not a major or revolutionary improvement like buggy -> car that made so many things possible that were impossible before. Like, before cars, it would take weeks or months to go from, say, St. Louis to Denver. With cars, you could make that trip in a few days or less. That's a huge, major, revolutionary improvement. Now, what thing does iPad provide that is similar to that?

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

running Android, Ubuntu, or Chromium Then its not an iPad competitor or alternative. It might be a tablet, but it is not in the same market as Apple is in with the iPad. None of these three OS's is a drastic change from what a computer is or how a computer is currently used, which the iPad is shaping up to be.

Android? Chromium? These are not exactly traditional desktop OSes. Ubuntu I'll concede, but if they're putting Android on it by default it will be a lot closer to the iPad than to your Windows/Mac desktop. I think this was something you brushed aside too quickly earlier. Android was shown in the video, and if they want to compete with the iPad it's a very good starting point (being at least in the same league, if not…

Ubuntu actually released a netbook remix that would handle much better on something like this than the traditional GNOME desktop. Take a look: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

running Android, Ubuntu, or Chromium Then its not an iPad competitor or alternative. It might be a tablet, but it is not in the same market as Apple is in with the iPad. None of these three OS's is a drastic change from what a computer is or how a computer is currently used, which the iPad is shaping up to be.

Wait.. the iPad runs the same OS as the iPhone (slightly modified) and this tablet runs the same OS as the Droid (slightly modified). So how is this not directly comparable?

The core of OS X and Springboard might be shared, but if you think that the UI of the applications on the iPad shared with the iPhone, might I suggest that you go and watch the iPad release video where Steve Jobs shows the device off?

From what I've seen in the video, this device doesn't have much custom UI and the main selling point is hardware.

Also this tablet might also run Ubuntu or ChromeOS. Which means that the OS won't be nearly as integrated with the hardware as it is on the iPad. Or that the tablet's UI won't be designed specifically for the device it is on. Or apps that it will run won't be designed specifically for the device and instead will be generic, to the lowest common denominator (which, most of the time, will be a phone, not a tablet).

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android? Chromium? These are not exactly traditional desktop OSes. Ubuntu I'll concede, but if they're putting Android on it by default it will be a lot closer to the iPad than to your Windows/Mac desktop. I think this was something you brushed aside too quickly earlier. Android was shown in the video, and if they want to compete with the iPad it's a very good starting point (being at least in the same league, if not…

Ubuntu actually released a netbook remix that would handle much better on something like this than the traditional GNOME desktop. Take a look: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr

The iPad (and this tablet, for that matter) is not a netbook. Throwing Gnome without the bar on the bottom on it won't magically make Ubuntu usable on the tablet in any way that makes sense.

I can go compile an X server for the iPhone and run all of those apps on it as well (or, most of them. Some apps or their dependancies might do weird things with bits that may break). That doesn't mean that I will have a good experience using them.

Re: Video: Notion Ink Adam, iPad alternative

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This looks like it's going to be technically quite impressive versus the iPad: Pixel Qi screen[1024x600], multi-touch (plus a backside trackpad!), camera, 3 USB ports, running Android, Ubuntu, or Chromium, with a dual-core 1Ghz Tegra CPU + GPU. More specs: http://www.technoholik.com/news/exclusive-a-sneak-peek-at-th...

running Android, Ubuntu, or Chromium Then its not an iPad competitor or alternative. It might be a tablet, but it is not in the same market as Apple is in with the iPad. None of these three OS's is a drastic change from what a computer is or how a computer is currently used, which the iPad is shaping up to be.

I can't agree. What's revolutionary about the iPad? Only that isn't running a desktop OS? There have been Windows CE tablets for ages. The difference is realization, which is everything, of course, it's the difference between Altavista and Google. The iPad will be successful But revolutionary?

On other side, you have the first device that it's at the same time, a tablet and a eink reader. I don't know if it will be successful, probably not at the same scale, but certainly it's much more revolutionary.

Anyway, if anything, I think this device could hurt more Kindle sales than iPad ones.

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