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So Where Else in the World Can You Get 1 Gbps to the Home?

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Re: So Where Else in the World Can You Get 1 Gbps to the Home?

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Post by stse »

nixy wrote: post #18
pistoriusp wrote: post #9

What's the general connection speed of everyone on HN? Does anyone have an insane connection? Mine is 4Mbit/s in South Africa, we're getting 8Mbit/s soon and possibly 10Mbit/s. It's pretty expensive; ~$200 p/m for an shaped and uncapped connection.

I get 100 Mbit/s here in Sweden, included in my rent.

I'm also in Sweden, with 100 Mbit/s FTTB (Cat. 7) via OpenNet for $45/month. FTTH is present but not currently enabled. Once you have FTTx you're quite future proof, if it was installed "correctly". I use Bahnhof as my ISP, for their nice stance on privacy.

Re: So Where Else in the World Can You Get 1 Gbps to the Home?

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Post by pmjordan »

pistoriusp wrote: post #15
pmjordan wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting 8Mbit/s down, 768kbit/s up on the outskirts of Vienna, Austria, at €21/month, no limits. In parts of the centre you can get 50Mbit/s fibre for a similar price. Anything faster is niche and expensive. I recently visited South Africa and noticed that the connection to the rest of the world was really slow. SA-based sites loaded at reasonable speeds, but gmail and such took forever. Is that an actual, real p…

This problem usually occurs with shaped accounts. During working hours the connection is shaped, and therefore, cheaper. The alternative is to pay a lot of money and have a download cap (5GB ~$67 p/m/ 10GB ~$85 p/m). Right now, on an unshaped account I've got a 200ms ping to google.com; on a shaped account it'll be ~800ms.

Wow, interesting. Is Europe-bound traffic really expensive for the ISPs or is this basically just a money-making scheme?

As far as I know there are only 2 major connections out of southern Africa, one all the way just off the west coast to Europe (with a branch to South America) and one through the Indian Ocean to India. I guess that duopoly could easily be used to drive up prices.

Re: So Where Else in the World Can You Get 1 Gbps to the Home?

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Post by stse »

henrikschroder wrote: post #19
houseabsolute wrote: post #10

I know this isn't Reddit so hopefully there will be no whining to preempt here. But I just want to point out that except for two cases on this list, these are just pilot programs, and of the production installations only Sweden's seems widely available.

I seem to remember that there are several places in Japan where you can get it from a commercial provider. I also remember being envious of some friends up north in Sweden in Luleå that lived in some sort of student apartments where they had 100/100Mbit connections back in 2000 or so, and I think they got upgraded to gigabit, but that's sort of special since it was subsidized by the university to attract students. Yo…

For anyone who knows Swedish, I can recommend (the free) book "De som byggde Internet i Sverige" (They built the Internet in Sweden) http://www.isoc.se/index.php?option=com_content&view=art...

Re: So Where Else in the World Can You Get 1 Gbps to the Home?

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Post by pistoriusp »

pmjordan wrote: post #22
pistoriusp wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This problem usually occurs with shaped accounts. During working hours the connection is shaped, and therefore, cheaper. The alternative is to pay a lot of money and have a download cap (5GB ~$67 p/m/ 10GB ~$85 p/m). Right now, on an unshaped account I've got a 200ms ping to google.com; on a shaped account it'll be ~800ms.

Wow, interesting. Is Europe-bound traffic really expensive for the ISPs or is this basically just a money-making scheme? As far as I know there are only 2 major connections out of southern Africa, one all the way just off the west coast to Europe (with a branch to South America) and one through the Indian Ocean to India. I guess that duopoly could easily be used to drive up prices.

It's a money making scheme. We've used to only have a single operator that is 50% owned by the government.

We've finally gotten another operator, but... We're not really holding our breath for cheaper Internet just yet. Maybe... Who knows?

Re: So Where Else in the World Can You Get 1 Gbps to the Home?

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Post by pistoriusp »

andyking wrote: post #20
pistoriusp wrote: post #9

What's the general connection speed of everyone on HN? Does anyone have an insane connection? Mine is 4Mbit/s in South Africa, we're getting 8Mbit/s soon and possibly 10Mbit/s. It's pretty expensive; ~$200 p/m for an shaped and uncapped connection.

I get about 4Mbps on a connection that advertises itself, in true British ISP fashion, as "up-to" 24Mbps. However, I pay a far less eye-watering ~$11 a month for a connection with no formal cap (although there is a "fair use policy" so if you sit seeding torrents for an entire month you're likely to get a nasty letter). It's spotty, unreliable, disconnects and reconnects at a slower speed at night and conks out if so…

I was visiting my brother in December in London. He had 24Mbps connection from Virgin. It was saturated to death during peak times. His major problem seemed to be the upstream.

He upgraded to 50Mbps/1.5Mbps upstream and his problems went away.

Re: So Where Else in the World Can You Get 1 Gbps to the Home?

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Post by thirdusername »

nixy wrote: post #18
pistoriusp wrote: post #9

What's the general connection speed of everyone on HN? Does anyone have an insane connection? Mine is 4Mbit/s in South Africa, we're getting 8Mbit/s soon and possibly 10Mbit/s. It's pretty expensive; ~$200 p/m for an shaped and uncapped connection.

I get 100 Mbit/s here in Sweden, included in my rent.

I get 100 Mbit/s through SUNET (Swedish university computer network) like almost all students in Sweden, which these days don't even raise an eyebrow. About €20 every six months. It's also worth mentioning that in Sweden download caps in any form are (almost) unheard of. You get what you pay for.
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