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Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
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Re: Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
#22I can't express it better. Please, leave
The choice is really for British people not Euro mainlanders. The western European nations, particularly the French do not like the UK in the EU. There's a lot to be gained from being in the EU. As a startup having the possibility to 'passport' into the EU is one of the most magnificent things, one license 28+ countries. This includes banking & finance (FCA) licenses. It is enviable to do this even in the US where 50…
> the French do not like the UK in the EU
Meh, you should ask French companies like EDF, Bombardier and friends... They don't like the UK in, they love it. No trade barriers, mature and profitable market, no real competitors in traditional industrial sectors anymore... It's almost like printing money.
Re: Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Perhaps then should be a referendum to ask the "Euro mainlanders" if they want a UK with the privileges they have. The EU mainlander area's elected representatives forged this deal. The privileges the UK sought like the 'red card' system apply to the whole of the EU. There's nothing stopping an EU country from getting the same terms on the integration bit, indeed some countries have done that to varying degrees - S…
but Norway, Iceland and switzerland are not part of the EU.
Yup No not in the EU but they are in the EEC meaning they have unrestricted trade access to the EU including the 3 freedoms.
I mentioned each of these have a varying degree of integration to the EU. Being in the EU means there is representation of which Switzerland, Norway and Iceland do not have.
This isn't a great situation though as these places effectively enact EU legislation without representation and nearly pay full fees for EU membership (per person).
Re: Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The choice is really for British people not Euro mainlanders Perhaps then should be a referendum to ask the "Euro mainlanders" if they want a UK with the privileges they have > There's a lot to be gained from being in the EU Yes, but with the same rules than all the other countries, not like now that they cherry pick what they want.
> Perhaps then should be a referendum to ask the "Euro mainlanders" if they want a UK with the privileges they have. The EU mainlander area's elected representatives forged this deal. The privileges the UK sought like the 'red card' system apply to the whole of the EU. There's nothing stopping an EU country from getting the same terms on the integration bit, indeed some countries have done that to varying degrees - S…
EU and EEC are different things. I don't think anybody would object to the UK opting for staying in EEC but out of EU proper. After all that's what they want: a trade zone.
Re: Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
#25Is the European voice fading? When was "political Europe" ever a thing? Each crisis sees individual European governments (or at best, regional blocks) go in their own direction. You can even watch the farce unfold right now, with the attitude towards Greece, where the neighbouring countries are basically saying "that's not our problem". And let's not even talk about the "European voice" on the topic of EU foreign pol…
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#26Re: Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Perhaps then should be a referendum to ask the "Euro mainlanders" if they want a UK with the privileges they have. The EU mainlander area's elected representatives forged this deal. The privileges the UK sought like the 'red card' system apply to the whole of the EU. There's nothing stopping an EU country from getting the same terms on the integration bit, indeed some countries have done that to varying degrees - S…
EU and EEC are different things. I don't think anybody would object to the UK opting for staying in EEC but out of EU proper. After all that's what they want: a trade zone.
There are problems with being in the EEC but not in the EU.
For the 'sovereignty' issue this is the worst as there is no representation in the creation of the laws. That would be even worse than being out of the EU.
Keep in mind Norway pays something like 90% per person of what the UK pays for its EEC membership. One day Brussels will make a law Norwegians don't like and they will be upset about it and won't be able to do anything about it.
A trade zone requires consistent laws among its members too.
Re: Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The choice is really for British people not Euro mainlanders. The western European nations, particularly the French do not like the UK in the EU. There's a lot to be gained from being in the EU. As a startup having the possibility to 'passport' into the EU is one of the most magnificent things, one license 28+ countries. This includes banking & finance (FCA) licenses. It is enviable to do this even in the US where 50…
> the French do not like the UK in the EU Meh, you should ask French companies like EDF, Bombardier and friends... They don't like the UK in, they love it . No trade barriers, mature and profitable market, no real competitors in traditional industrial sectors anymore... It's almost like printing money.
I should have clarified, French people don't like the EU. More than half don't want the UK in the EU. In addition CDG infamously vetoed the UKs entry in the days of the EEC.
The differences in culture in Europe divides people, trade unites them so I guess these companies love it.
Re: Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
but Norway, Iceland and switzerland are not part of the EU.
Yup No not in the EU but they are in the EEC meaning they have unrestricted trade access to the EU including the 3 freedoms. I mentioned each of these have a varying degree of integration to the EU. Being in the EU means there is representation of which Switzerland, Norway and Iceland do not have. This isn't a great situation though as these places effectively enact EU legislation without representation and nearly pa…
yes that is true
Re: Open Letter from a Eurocitizen Living in London: Brits, Vote for Brexit
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Perhaps then should be a referendum to ask the "Euro mainlanders" if they want a UK with the privileges they have. The EU mainlander area's elected representatives forged this deal. The privileges the UK sought like the 'red card' system apply to the whole of the EU. There's nothing stopping an EU country from getting the same terms on the integration bit, indeed some countries have done that to varying degrees - S…
EU and EEC are different things. I don't think anybody would object to the UK opting for staying in EEC but out of EU proper. After all that's what they want: a trade zone.
> EU and EEC are different things. I don't think anybody would object to the UK opting for staying in EEC but out of EU proper. After all that's what they want: a trade zone.
Yes, this is what I wanted to say.