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Re: Swifton: Ruby on Rails-inspired web framework for Swift

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The project banner depicting a damsel in distress on the railway tracks is going to make some people twitch. I'd avoid that distraction by picking something gender neutral. My 2c.

It is Swift on Rails. If it was Kanye on Rails no one would be offended to see a picture of a man on the railroad.

Re: Swifton: Ruby on Rails-inspired web framework for Swift

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Seems to me like the real challenge in those framework (excepting performance, of course) will be in the orm component. Having a library that can query a db in a typesafe way is a must. Another will be in the concurrency patterns ( promises ? Coroutines ?, etc). But i get a great hope that they will succeed. Having a strong open source community will help. In fact, i'm so fed up with the sad state of uikit right now,…

I actually like GCD, so I hope concurrency doesn't make it to the language, or if it does tries to stay as close as it can to GCD api design.

Re: Swifton: Ruby on Rails-inspired web framework for Swift

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Seems to me like the real challenge in those framework (excepting performance, of course) will be in the orm component. Having a library that can query a db in a typesafe way is a must. Another will be in the concurrency patterns ( promises ? Coroutines ?, etc). But i get a great hope that they will succeed. Having a strong open source community will help. In fact, i'm so fed up with the sad state of uikit right now,…

Have you heard of Zewo and SwiftAndroid?

Re: Swifton: Ruby on Rails-inspired web framework for Swift

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish Apple had not ditched NeXT's EOF. It would make a fine open source project these days.

I never used this framework, but everything i know from the next era is starting to show its age (including coredata, with its messed up support for multi threading access). The more i think about it, the more i think golang approach is the right one : the only hard part today is concurrency. As long as swift ( and rust for that matter) hasn't standardized patterns that people would use on the whole stack for concurr…

GCD is the best I've seen in terms of language design for concurrency. It's also a bit higher level than managing threads on your own. Though I might be wrong.

Re: Swifton: Ruby on Rails-inspired web framework for Swift

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Seems to me like the real challenge in those framework (excepting performance, of course) will be in the orm component. Having a library that can query a db in a typesafe way is a must. Another will be in the concurrency patterns ( promises ? Coroutines ?, etc). But i get a great hope that they will succeed. Having a strong open source community will help. In fact, i'm so fed up with the sad state of uikit right now,…

https://github.com/tannernelson/fluent

Re: Swifton: Ruby on Rails-inspired web framework for Swift

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It seems that, outside of what's used in Cocoa, the Swift language is pretty volatile right now. I would hesitate to commit to a large project that didn't involve the App Store.

I think the hope of projects like these is partly to try to advance interest in Swift which draws in more users who then help contribute to making the language more cross-platform, and partly to be f1rst in the project's niche when the language finally crosses that barrier, so that it becomes the de facto standard. (Think Compojure for Clojure, in the same problem domain.)

Re: Swifton: Ruby on Rails-inspired web framework for Swift

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post #20

The project banner depicting a damsel in distress on the railway tracks is going to make some people twitch. I'd avoid that distraction by picking something gender neutral. My 2c.

It is Swift on Rails. If it was Kanye on Rails no one would be offended to see a picture of a man on the railroad.

Not everyone in the world recognizes Taylor Swift, though I agree it's a clever pun.
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