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Artists Covertly Scan Bust of Nefertiti and Release the Data for Free Online

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Re: Artists Covertly Scan Bust of Nefertiti and Release the Data for Free Online

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Post by themartorana »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

Excitingly enough, UNESCO and IDA are helping fund cameras for 3D scanning of cultural heritage sites in Syria to preserve them in the event ISIS/ISIL destroys them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_herita... "After the Palmyra temple's destruction in August 2015, the Institute for Digital Archaeology (IDA) announced plans to establish a digital record of historical sites and artifacts threatened…

Thank goodness for this. The destruction of culturally significant artifacts of such age and importance is incredibly sad to me. At least photography existed before ISIS got here. 3D models are even better.

Makes you wonder what else has been destroyed throughout history. Crazy, sad stuff.

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Post by Shivetya »

aresant wrote: post #5

I anticipate all sorts of crazy digital-rights management battles ahead for 3D objects like this - including art - but even more on likenesses / people / etc. Roughly a year ago I bought a structure scanner (1) for my iPad, scanned in friends, imported to unity and let them walk around themselves in the Oculus DK2. That was a very cool experience but an unexpected result was how many people asked me to delete the sca…

Well it has been out there that many Hollywood stars have had high resolution image maps made of them for future use.

I think the real threat isn't digital rights management, its going to being alerted when 3D objects like this are inserted into live presentations. As in, when computer power is there to overlay someone in real time it should be acknowledged else separating fact and fiction will not be available to anyone short of government agencies. Need someone to pull a trigger, we got a computer to make it whom we want

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Post by vitd »

unchocked wrote: post #10
tiglionabbit wrote: post #3

They snuck in kinects under their ties. That's great.

Was wondering how they did it, clearly a better resolution than photogrammetry. Source?

The video in the article shows them doing it:

https://vimeo.com/148156899

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Post by overgard »

zupreme wrote: post #16

This is the future. Copyrights and patents were really only effective when the means of production were out of the reach of the average person. 3D printing, digital audio, and other current technologies are almost certainly going to make copyrights only effective at stopping mass monetezation of copied content - not at stopping the copying and sharing of content for personal use. 3D printers in particular, I believe,…

I doubt the last claim; even if the materials were cheap enough you're dealing with a lot of assembly. If capitalism has taught us anything it's that people will pay for convenience. Plus packaging and branding are huge in those markets. Shopping for and opening the toy is like half the excitement!

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Post by cmrx64 »

themartorana wrote: post #21
toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

Excitingly enough, UNESCO and IDA are helping fund cameras for 3D scanning of cultural heritage sites in Syria to preserve them in the event ISIS/ISIL destroys them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_herita... "After the Palmyra temple's destruction in August 2015, the Institute for Digital Archaeology (IDA) announced plans to establish a digital record of historical sites and artifacts threatened…

Thank goodness for this. The destruction of culturally significant artifacts of such age and importance is incredibly sad to me. At least photography existed before ISIS got here. 3D models are even better. Makes you wonder what else has been destroyed throughout history. Crazy, sad stuff.

In the Star Control II lore, the Ur-Quan (evil invading alien race) have as a condition of surrender the destruction of all structures older than 500 years, to destroy any history of not being subjugated by the Ur-Quan. It's a really interesting and sad thing.

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Post by aresant »

icelancer wrote: post #20
aresant wrote: post #5

I anticipate all sorts of crazy digital-rights management battles ahead for 3D objects like this - including art - but even more on likenesses / people / etc. Roughly a year ago I bought a structure scanner (1) for my iPad, scanned in friends, imported to unity and let them walk around themselves in the Oculus DK2. That was a very cool experience but an unexpected result was how many people asked me to delete the sca…

Very cool. I have a DK2; how did you use the image/output of the Structure Scanner to create a virtual world to walk around? EDIT: I see you used Unity. I'm not a game programmer (I use the Oculus for video work); care to expound briefly? This could be huge for my line of work. Thanks for any time you can spend on my question.

I would love to understand how it would be huge for your line of work just out of curiosity - my mind was BLOWN the first time I tried this.

In terms of getting it to work you can with the Structure Sensor, import the mesh in Unity 3d, drop the OVR plugin for the Oculus Rift and you're there.

Seriously it's incredibly simple, each of those steps you could figure out with a cursory Goog search / tutorial.

Re: Artists Covertly Scan Bust of Nefertiti and Release the Data for Free Online

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Post by knughit »

Animats wrote: post #11
aresant wrote: post #5

I anticipate all sorts of crazy digital-rights management battles ahead for 3D objects like this - including art - but even more on likenesses / people / etc. Roughly a year ago I bought a structure scanner (1) for my iPad, scanned in friends, imported to unity and let them walk around themselves in the Oculus DK2. That was a very cool experience but an unexpected result was how many people asked me to delete the sca…

"I anticipate all sorts of crazy digital-rights management battles ahead for 3D objects like this - including art." A 3D scan of an existing object does not create a new copyrighted work under US law. See Meshwerks vs. Toyota . This follows Bridgeman vs. Corel (2D photos don't create a new copyrighted work), which follows the famous Supreme Court decision Feist vs. Rural Telephone (which allowed loading phone directo…

The question is also whether you are allowed to publish a digital copy of a copyrighted sculpture

Also, how does Bridgeman square with the reality that photographs are certainly copyrighted (Getty, etc)?

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Post by knughit »

zupreme wrote: post #16

This is the future. Copyrights and patents were really only effective when the means of production were out of the reach of the average person. 3D printing, digital audio, and other current technologies are almost certainly going to make copyrights only effective at stopping mass monetezation of copied content - not at stopping the copying and sharing of content for personal use. 3D printers in particular, I believe,…

Except for well branded characters, toys already sell basically at cost of materials, thanks to Chinese manufacturing

Re: Artists Covertly Scan Bust of Nefertiti and Release the Data for Free Online

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Post by roywiggins »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

Excitingly enough, UNESCO and IDA are helping fund cameras for 3D scanning of cultural heritage sites in Syria to preserve them in the event ISIS/ISIL destroys them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_herita... "After the Palmyra temple's destruction in August 2015, the Institute for Digital Archaeology (IDA) announced plans to establish a digital record of historical sites and artifacts threatened…

As optimistic as I am about photogrammetry and other 3D-scanning technology, I'm leery of calling it "preservation" or letting you "recreate" artifacts.

It captures shape and texture, but that's all. It's hollow. You can't take a core sample of a 3D scan, you can't X-Ray a 3D scan, you can't smell it or touch it; you can't tell if there's anything inside and you can't carbon-date it. It can't capture how pliable or brittle the object is or how dense it is. A high-res scan of the Mona Lisa can't actually be used to recreate the Mona Lisa. Short of nanoscale replicators, there's information missing.

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Post by nommm-nommm »

themartorana wrote: post #21
toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

Excitingly enough, UNESCO and IDA are helping fund cameras for 3D scanning of cultural heritage sites in Syria to preserve them in the event ISIS/ISIL destroys them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_herita... "After the Palmyra temple's destruction in August 2015, the Institute for Digital Archaeology (IDA) announced plans to establish a digital record of historical sites and artifacts threatened…

Thank goodness for this. The destruction of culturally significant artifacts of such age and importance is incredibly sad to me. At least photography existed before ISIS got here. 3D models are even better. Makes you wonder what else has been destroyed throughout history. Crazy, sad stuff.

Some people say one example is Stari Most, an Ottoman built bridge, in Bosnia and Herzegovina that was destroyed in 1993 after standing for 427 years.

"After the destruction of the Stari Most, a spokesman for the Croats admitted that they deliberately destroyed it, claiming that it was of strategic importance.[8] Academics have argued that the bridge held little strategic value and that its shelling was an example of deliberate cultural property destruction. Andras Riedlmayer terms the destruction an act of "killing memory", in which evidence of a shared cultural heritage and peaceful co-existence were deliberately destroyed.[7]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stari_Most

A replica was reconstructed and reopened in 2004.

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