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Re: Visions of the Future

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Post by mikeash »

theothermkn wrote: post #9

FTA: > Imagination is our window into the future. Maybe. But the outlook is from the past, and is subject to the past's failures and to failures of the imagination that are due to the juvenile foible of nostalgia. These posters are, after all, riffs in the genre of travel marketing, which is designed to sell the experience of a place as more than it is; they push a particular and motivated hyper-reality. This betrays…

Yes, because it's the hallmark of a mature mind to smirk at other people's fantasies.

Can I safely assume that you count yourself among those "mature minds"?

Truly mature minds don't need to diminish others in order to make themselves look better.

Re: Visions of the Future

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Post by Shivetya »

As a fan of The Expanse the release of posters like this was very timely. While there is obviously no tie in I am just glad to have another very good scifi show on and interest in space not waning

Re: Visions of the Future

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Post by theothermkn »

mikeash wrote: post #21
theothermkn wrote: post #9

FTA: > Imagination is our window into the future. Maybe. But the outlook is from the past, and is subject to the past's failures and to failures of the imagination that are due to the juvenile foible of nostalgia. These posters are, after all, riffs in the genre of travel marketing, which is designed to sell the experience of a place as more than it is; they push a particular and motivated hyper-reality. This betrays…

Yes, because it's the hallmark of a mature mind to smirk at other people's fantasies. Can I safely assume that you count yourself among those "mature minds"? Truly mature minds don't need to diminish others in order to make themselves look better.

Anyone who faces the daunting complexity of space travel, its hazards, its complete and utter alienness, or even the unavailability of a convective environment for heat transfer, anyone who does that and then resorts to 1920s-era travel poster riffs should expect the occasional smirk.

The deluded have no say in whether the serious are amused by them.

Re: Visions of the Future

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Post by davnicwil »

Grishnakh wrote: post #18

I like looking at stuff like this, but it's a completely unrealistic view of humanity's future. If we're really lucky, the cities of the future will look something like those in Blade Runner (minus the part about people living offworld) or Dredd, or even the Mad Max movies. But more likely, things are going to look more like 28 Days Later or The Walking Dead, or the scene of the future in The Terminator.

Just on the off chance these are anything but tongue in cheek, I think at least wrt tourism it is completely unrealistic.

It's hard to see how the cost and difficulty of interplanetary travel could in any reasonable (or just any) time frame beat other, new, forms of entertainment and relaxation that may constitute or replace tourism in the future. Completely realistic VR 'holidays' to anywhere, simulated or invented, comes to mind as an obvious alternative.

Re: Visions of the Future

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Post by dan353hehe »

theothermkn wrote: post #9

FTA: > Imagination is our window into the future. Maybe. But the outlook is from the past, and is subject to the past's failures and to failures of the imagination that are due to the juvenile foible of nostalgia. These posters are, after all, riffs in the genre of travel marketing, which is designed to sell the experience of a place as more than it is; they push a particular and motivated hyper-reality. This betrays…

I don't think I have ever heard anyone say "juvenile foible of nostalgia" before in my life.

I have generally found that when people become art critics and try to describe why the like/don't like a certain piece, it tells more about them as a person then it does about the piece.

I think the best description of why the posters were created is:

> As you look through these images of imaginative travel destinations, remember that you can be an architect of the future.

They are simply trying to encourage people, probably younger people, to realize that things that are impossible today, don't necessarily have to remain that way. But who knows, maybe I just have a "stunted" mind.

Re: Visions of the Future

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Post by theothermkn »

dan353hehe wrote: post #26
theothermkn wrote: post #9

FTA: > Imagination is our window into the future. Maybe. But the outlook is from the past, and is subject to the past's failures and to failures of the imagination that are due to the juvenile foible of nostalgia. These posters are, after all, riffs in the genre of travel marketing, which is designed to sell the experience of a place as more than it is; they push a particular and motivated hyper-reality. This betrays…

I don't think I have ever heard anyone say "juvenile foible of nostalgia" before in my life. I have generally found that when people become art critics and try to describe why the like/don't like a certain piece, it tells more about them as a person then it does about the piece. I think the best description of why the posters were created is: > As you look through these images of imaginative travel destinations, reme…

> I have generally found that when people become art critics and try to describe why the like/don't like a certain piece, it tells more about them as a person then it does about the piece.

For example, your comment reveals that you prefer casting aspersions on a person over addressing the substance of a remark, especially when that remark challenges a cherished belief. It also reveals that you feel you are unable to cope with the realities of the present without your unrealistic fantasies about the future.

I like this game!

Re: Visions of the Future

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Post by mikeash »

theothermkn wrote: post #23
mikeash wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because it's the hallmark of a mature mind to smirk at other people's fantasies. Can I safely assume that you count yourself among those "mature minds"? Truly mature minds don't need to diminish others in order to make themselves look better.

Anyone who faces the daunting complexity of space travel, its hazards, its complete and utter alienness, or even the unavailability of a convective environment for heat transfer, anyone who does that and then resorts to 1920s-era travel poster riffs should expect the occasional smirk. The deluded have no say in whether the serious are amused by them.

Making fun of people doesn't become a mark of maturity just because you use dispassionate language and complex vocabulary.

But hey, if it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it.

Re: Visions of the Future

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Post by smellf »

tyleo wrote: post #19

For people interested in getting these printed as posters, you could probably use FedEx: http://www.fedex.com/us/office/poster-printing.html IKEA sells pretty cheap frames for stuff like this too: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/categories/departments/dec...

$7/sqft? It looks like Costco is much cheaper: http://www.costcophotocenter.com/Help#/topic/pricing-shippin...
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