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HFT in the Banana Land

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Re: HFT in the Banana Land

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Post by lmm »

vog wrote: post #6
Zr40 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Europe" here refers to the continent, which the lands of the UK clearly are not a part of. It does not refer to the European Union.

The point is that only UK citizens simplify that to "Europe" instead of saying "Continental Europe". Also, it is strange that they only exclude themselves, not Scandinavia or Iceland. This is really a political issue. Here in Germany nobody would ever think of excluding UK when talking about "Europe". The same goes for France, Belgium, and so on. And nobody would ever have to explicitly say "European Union" just to m…

England has been a land apart for nearly a thousand years - ruled by the same monarchy, no part of it successfully invaded by violence, nor really (in the minds of most English) united with other kingdoms on equal terms. So there is a much stronger national identity than in Germany (where many were Prussian or Bavarian or Silesian until the late 19th century), and a political policy of "splendid isolation" was followed until relatively recently. We have strong ties to Europe, but arguably stronger ties to the US ("51st state" is a joke, but with an element of truth to it) and Commonwealth.

I think any businessperson in the UK understands the economic value that the EU brings to us all. But most voters aren't businesspeople. When ordinary people hear about the EU it's about regulations, subsidies, or funding for things that seem relatively frivolous, none of which really make a great case for it.

Re: HFT in the Banana Land

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Post by sniperinmahwah »

atemerev wrote: post #10
vog wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that only UK citizens simplify that to "Europe" instead of saying "Continental Europe". Also, it is strange that they only exclude themselves, not Scandinavia or Iceland. This is really a political issue. Here in Germany nobody would ever think of excluding UK when talking about "Europe". The same goes for France, Belgium, and so on. And nobody would ever have to explicitly say "European Union" just to m…

> Here in Germany nobody would ever think of excluding UK when talking about "Europe" Ask the French. :)

I used “UK” and “Europe” because they are the words used by Vigilant Global on their Richborough mast website. Nothing political here.

Re: HFT in the Banana Land

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Post by aaron695 »

Zr40 wrote: post #4
dovdov wrote: post #3

UK - Europe This tells a lot. :)

"Europe" here refers to the continent, which the lands of the UK clearly are not a part of. It does not refer to the European Union.

> "Europe" here refers to the continent, which the lands of the UK clearly are not a part of

What continent do you think the UK is part of, Asia?

It's clearly a part of the European continent.

Re: HFT in the Banana Land

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Post by icebraining »

vog wrote: post #14
bb101 wrote: post #9

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I think many people in the UK admire the Swiss and Norwegian models of participating in the "European project". The country retains sovereignty and only implements laws that suit its citizens. I have to say I am surprised by your comment, as it assumes that politicians are responsible for their country's perspective on Europe? Surely it is the other way round, and the politicians have an obligation to represent their…

> I have to say I am surprised by your comment, as it assumes that politicians are responsible for their country's perspective on Europe? They are responsible for the country's actions towards other countries. To make it more clear: I deeply hope that they are not really backed by the population, and that they will either notice that on their own, or that the next elections which show a shift towards "working togethe…

In the line of the anarchist saying "if voting changed anything, it would be made illegal", maybe the only reason why the EP has a good number of such broad-minded people is because the institution doesn't have much power.

Re: HFT in the Banana Land

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Post by atemerev »

sniperinmahwah wrote: post #19
atemerev wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have to maintain steady position (impossible for planes). Also, the weather over the Channel can be quite unforgiving. Drones are not the end of the line, though. A quick Google search for "hft neutrino" shows how creative these guys could be in their insatiable quests for shaving off microseconds.

The neutrino thing was a failed experience (false data), so no HFT here.

Not this one. The idea of using neutrinos to beam through the Earth directly, from London to NYC.

Re: HFT in the Banana Land

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Post by atemerev »

sniperinmahwah wrote: post #17
atemerev wrote: post #7

"inhabitants of the Western world need to realize that the tallest structures they can see in the landscape are the face of what may be a new kind of God: finance." Oh come on, so much drama for a slick lean tower in sparsely populated land, barely visible to anyone but local fishermen. Compare it to, say, this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar This is a very prominent military installation that spoiled short…

I totally agree. I like guyed towers. They are quite invisible. I just wanted to end with the new eyes of God (dishes)

Most of the world's trading is now going through three physical unremarkable buildings: Equinix datacenters NY4, LD4 and TY3 in NYC, London and Tokyo respectively.

Inside, there is a mess of server racks installed by major banks and financial companies and everybody else (it's not that expensive, by corporate standards, to rent a rack place there), all interconnected by a web of optical fiber. Chaos reigns.

These are the places where billions per second change hands.

Re: HFT in the Banana Land

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Post by gpvos »

Zr40 wrote: post #4
dovdov wrote: post #3

UK - Europe This tells a lot. :)

"Europe" here refers to the continent, which the lands of the UK clearly are not a part of. It does not refer to the European Union.

"Clearly"? The UK rests firmly on the European continental shelf. During the last ice age, you could walk over to it.

Also, whether the UK will remain a member of the European Union depends on a certain referendum in the near future.

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