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Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months

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Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months

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post #5

To be clear, it's lost XX% of it's market cap. The market cap is a knowingly-flawed assessment of earnings potential for a company. Its actual value is probably unchanged.

The value of Etsy changed when Amazon entered its space. It is objectively worth less now that the 800 lb gorilla has decided to eat Etsy's lunch.

Amazon fails to eat other companies lunch more often than it succeeds in fact.

See: search, auctions, classified ads, smart phones, etc.

Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months

#22

Angie's List: from $28 in Jul 2013 to $9[0] Box: from $24 in Jan 2015 to $10[1] GoPro: from $87 in Oct 2014 to $11[2] Groupon: from $26 in Nov 2011 to $2.60[3] GrubHub: from $46 in Apr 2015 to $21[4] Twitter: from $70 in Jan 2014 to $18[5] Yelp: from $97 in Mar 2014 to $21[6] Zillow: from $121 in Feb 2015 to $22[7] Zynga: from $15 in Mar 2012 to $2[8] 0: http://www.google.com/finance?q=ANGI 1: http://www.google.com/f…

Yahoo: from $11 in 2011 to $50 in 2014 to $30 in 2016

I am actually surprised Yahoo is worth three times as much today as it was in 2011.

Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months

#23
post #5

To be clear, it's lost XX% of it's market cap. The market cap is a knowingly-flawed assessment of earnings potential for a company. Its actual value is probably unchanged.

Revenue growth flat and loosing money for the last four quarters doesn't seem to good.

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AETSY&fstype=ii&ei=...

Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months

#25

Angie's List: from $28 in Jul 2013 to $9[0] Box: from $24 in Jan 2015 to $10[1] GoPro: from $87 in Oct 2014 to $11[2] Groupon: from $26 in Nov 2011 to $2.60[3] GrubHub: from $46 in Apr 2015 to $21[4] Twitter: from $70 in Jan 2014 to $18[5] Yelp: from $97 in Mar 2014 to $21[6] Zillow: from $121 in Feb 2015 to $22[7] Zynga: from $15 in Mar 2012 to $2[8] 0: http://www.google.com/finance?q=ANGI 1: http://www.google.com/f…

So I suppose the take-away is: avoid putting your savings in tech stock?

Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months

#27
post #22

Angie's List: from $28 in Jul 2013 to $9[0] Box: from $24 in Jan 2015 to $10[1] GoPro: from $87 in Oct 2014 to $11[2] Groupon: from $26 in Nov 2011 to $2.60[3] GrubHub: from $46 in Apr 2015 to $21[4] Twitter: from $70 in Jan 2014 to $18[5] Yelp: from $97 in Mar 2014 to $21[6] Zillow: from $121 in Feb 2015 to $22[7] Zynga: from $15 in Mar 2012 to $2[8] 0: http://www.google.com/finance?q=ANGI 1: http://www.google.com/f…

Yahoo: from $11 in 2011 to $50 in 2014 to $30 in 2016 I am actually surprised Yahoo is worth three times as much today as it was in 2011.

Yea, I'm surprised as well. What/how have they changed?

Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months

#29
post #22

Angie's List: from $28 in Jul 2013 to $9[0] Box: from $24 in Jan 2015 to $10[1] GoPro: from $87 in Oct 2014 to $11[2] Groupon: from $26 in Nov 2011 to $2.60[3] GrubHub: from $46 in Apr 2015 to $21[4] Twitter: from $70 in Jan 2014 to $18[5] Yelp: from $97 in Mar 2014 to $21[6] Zillow: from $121 in Feb 2015 to $22[7] Zynga: from $15 in Mar 2012 to $2[8] 0: http://www.google.com/finance?q=ANGI 1: http://www.google.com/f…

Yahoo: from $11 in 2011 to $50 in 2014 to $30 in 2016 I am actually surprised Yahoo is worth three times as much today as it was in 2011.

It's only Alibaba stock they hold that creates any "value" in Yahoo.

"The latter part of the business is clearly pulling the former along. Here’s how to think about it: Yahoo has a stock market value of $34.1 billion, and owns a 24 percent stake in Alibaba. Estimates for the current value of Alibaba, which is planning an IPO, range between $75 billion and $125 billion. If it comes in at the low end of that range, Yahoo’s stake would be worth $18 billion, or just over half of Yahoo’s total market value. At the high end, Yahoo’s stake in Alibaba would be worth $30 billion—which would imply that the rest of Yahoo’s enterprise is worth as little as $4 billion, or 12 percent of its current value."

http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-10-16/how-much-is-...

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-yahoo-really-worthless-w...

http://qz.com/528986/charted-the-value-of-yahoos-alibaba-sta...

Re: Etsy stock has lost 76% of its value in 9 months

#30
post #20

Isn't that the strategy these days? Extract as much value from a company and only then go public?

Yep, IPOs are the new down rounds. The founders/early investors sell shares on the private secondary market pre-IPO, leaving the public and the employees holding the bag after the IPO.
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