Even from a theft perspecive it is bad design practise to have this placed outdoor... Why not place only the camera and button outdoor and have a simple wire connection to the wifi module. It's such a design flaw it becomes even funny
Ring Doorbell Vulnerability Exposes Wifi Password
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#22Even from a theft perspecive it is bad design practise to have this placed outdoor... Why not place only the camera and button outdoor and have a simple wire connection to the wifi module. It's such a design flaw it becomes even funny
Because 95+% of consumers would rather have something simple to install rather than something that requires drilling holes in their house or professional installation.
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#23Peep will require a little more work to install than Ring, so won't be quite as convenient.
You'd remove the existing peephole, and then attach Peep through the hole. Peep would have an outside component that contains the camera, microphone, and speaker, and an inside component that contains a display and the wifi unit.
The place where the outside component connects to the inside would be on the inside, so from outside you can not simply detach the outside component like you can with Ring.
The inside component would also contain a microphone and a vibration sensor, so that it can tell when someone rings the doorbell or knocks on the door.
Although Peep installation would not be as easy as installing Ring, it shouldn't be too bad since it reuses the peephole hole so you do not have to make any new holes.
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#24Even from a theft perspecive it is bad design practise to have this placed outdoor... Why not place only the camera and button outdoor and have a simple wire connection to the wifi module. It's such a design flaw it becomes even funny
Why would someone steal a doorbell? Vandalise, sure, but steal it?
So - you steal it, because you can actually install it at home (or resell it for that purpose). You don't steal a (broken) part of a doorbell, you steal a complete IoT device that the thread here and the original article seem to consider useful.
https://ring.com/store/products/ring-doorbell - it's $200..
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
do what every lock do for the last century: do not leave screws outside. further, I'd have one module inside the door, a little wire just connecting a dumb button to the outside. granted installation would require a single drill hole, but it wouldn't be a huge fail like this.
But the module seems to have a camera.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because 95+% of consumers would rather have something simple to install rather than something that requires drilling holes in their house or professional installation.
But presumably the existing doorbell would already have simple wires running inside?
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#27serious question: what would be a better way to store the wifi credentials protected against the device theft?
Host its own wifi, with small preconfigured bridge device to plug into spare ethernet port of router?
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#30It doesn't seem all that serious. If somebody's going to be removing parts of your house, they're putting themselves are far greater risk of arrest than a hacker hiding behind the internet. Why not just slash their tires or start a fire while you're there? Even having the wifi password doesn't necessarily give you access to anything but their internet connection anyway.
Seems useful to a crook.