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Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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Re: Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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Let us not forget that one of the originals behind Delicious Library now works (or did work) at Apple - http://www.mikematas.com/

He left in july 2009 I believe. Cant pull up dead link to the blog post, cache wont work, but here is the link to the google search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mike+matas+leaves+a...

You're a bit off there. He joined Apple in 2005.

Re: Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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Yes. Who would possibly think of a bookshelf as a metaphor for your collection of books.

To be fair, there are two other things at play here. * 1. No app had ever displayed books on a bookshelf in this way until Delicious Monster did. * 2. The designer who designed the bookshelf UI at Delicious Monster was poached by Apple to work on the iPad team. (And because I'm irritated by comments on Hacker News lately, I just want to point out that sarcasm is the simplest form of humor.)

"The designer who designed the bookshelf UI at Delicious Monster was poached by Apple to work on the iPad team."

If you're referring to Mike Matas, the co-founder of Delicious Monster, he left DM to join Apple back in 2005. While I imagine he's probably working on the iPad, he wasn't poached specifically to work on the device.

Re: Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, there are two other things at play here. * 1. No app had ever displayed books on a bookshelf in this way until Delicious Monster did. * 2. The designer who designed the bookshelf UI at Delicious Monster was poached by Apple to work on the iPad team. (And because I'm irritated by comments on Hacker News lately, I just want to point out that sarcasm is the simplest form of humor.)

"The designer who designed the bookshelf UI at Delicious Monster was poached by Apple to work on the iPad team." If you're referring to Mike Matas, the co-founder of Delicious Monster, he left DM to join Apple back in 2005. While I imagine he's probably working on the iPad, he wasn't poached specifically to work on the device.

How do you know the iPad wasn't 5 years in the making?

Re: Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He left in july 2009 I believe. Cant pull up dead link to the blog post, cache wont work, but here is the link to the google search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mike+matas+leaves+a...

You're a bit off there. He joined Apple in 2005.

How do you figure? If he joined Apple in 2005 and left in July 2009, what's the issue? What's 'a bit off?'

Re: Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, there are two other things at play here. * 1. No app had ever displayed books on a bookshelf in this way until Delicious Monster did. * 2. The designer who designed the bookshelf UI at Delicious Monster was poached by Apple to work on the iPad team. (And because I'm irritated by comments on Hacker News lately, I just want to point out that sarcasm is the simplest form of humor.)

"The designer who designed the bookshelf UI at Delicious Monster was poached by Apple to work on the iPad team." If you're referring to Mike Matas, the co-founder of Delicious Monster, he left DM to join Apple back in 2005. While I imagine he's probably working on the iPad, he wasn't poached specifically to work on the device.

He mentioned somewhere that he designed elements of the iPad's Maps UI.

Re: Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The designer who designed the bookshelf UI at Delicious Monster was poached by Apple to work on the iPad team." If you're referring to Mike Matas, the co-founder of Delicious Monster, he left DM to join Apple back in 2005. While I imagine he's probably working on the iPad, he wasn't poached specifically to work on the device.

He mentioned somewhere that he designed elements of the iPad's Maps UI.

Yeah, according to this twitter post http://twitter.com/mike_matas/status/8292208676 he also worked on the Photos app.

Re: Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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Wow, I'm surprised Apple didn't just buy Delicious Library outright, like they bought SoundJam MP for iTunes, or Cover Flow for Cover Flow, or plenty of other small developers for features.

No, they went for not buying it just like they didn't buy Konfabulator for Dashboard, and probably dozens of other examples.

Why should they have paid Konfabulator for Dashboard? They invented Desk Accessories back in System 1.0

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Wil Shipley responded to this very eloquently: "As a creator, part of what I seek is recognition, immortality. I don’t work for Apple or Google (I’ve been offered jobs & buyouts) because I want the fame myself. It’s my shot at immortality. My designs are my children. So it stinks when I feel like Steve might get the fame for my innovation. I lose my children, as it were. But your children aren’t really yours. They ha…

I think this is the right idea to have. Take the design of the modern laptop. Apple was the first to pioneer the idea that you could put a touchpad at the bottom of the keyboard and give the user a place to rest his/her hands in the process. Now everyone does it because it's such a head-slappingly good design idea you would be crazy to do anything else. I'd venture to guess most average computer users have no idea Apple is the origin of this design. But I'm sure it irks Jobs a little bit now and again when he sees cheapo netbooks using it.

Re: Apple iPad's iBook rips off indie dev's creation

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You're a bit off there. He joined Apple in 2005.

How do you figure? If he joined Apple in 2005 and left in July 2009, what's the issue? What's 'a bit off?'

Sorry, I read your post as he joined in July 2009, which would make Apple's use of the bookshelf more suspicious.
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