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Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by graeham »

I think they're on the right track with a wide pay-for-content subscription, but I think they're missing that what people don't like is being tracked, not ads themselves.

Ads can be ignored easily enough, especially with a blocker. Why pay for a service that you can get with an ad blocker?

What's needed is a Spotify premium-style model, where a monthly subscription is paid by the user, which is distributed to the content producers. (Or perhaps a tiered or capped system, where payment is tied to amount of content consumed). Such a system would also enforce better content being produced, with linkbait and sites designed for users to erroneously click on ads becoming non-viable.

Single-source subscriptions (like a newspaper would be) don't make sense for the internet. Distribution costs are negligible compared to print, and ease of accessing content is not tied to geography.

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by ymse »

Given that Google Ads are mostly used on third-party sites, does this mean they will be sharing some of that revenue with the sites that now loses their ads?

If not, why should we give Google money to take potential income from smaller companies?

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by [deleted] »

chippy wrote: post #18

Let's consider this for our non techy friends and family. Can we expect our mothers to pay Google a monthy fee to view less adverts on webpages on the Internet? How will their ideas about what the internet-as-utility mean to them change? Will they consider the money they pay to their ISP as already covering this? Would not paying imply that they should be happy to see advertising? How would this model apply to other…

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Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by dogma1138 »

cm2187 wrote: post #19
pajtai wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true. But ads are more targeted not to make it less annoying for you, but because people who sell stuff think they'll get a higher conversion rate the more targeted they get.... and that's hard to argue with. But I do think legislation to make you be tracked less would be awesome, but it'd be fighting money.

You would have to rely on ad websites to respect laws and regulations and for legislations to be consistent in every country. Ain't going to happen. I'd rather keep blocking ads.

The ad network will only have to comply with that for websites that operate out of said country, a US website doesn't have to comply with EU cookie policy for example unless it's operated by a company from within the EU.

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by awalton »

Pay Google to stop seeing some Google ads.

Meanwhile, websites will code around this and display more ads from other sources, and reap the rewards of getting paid by Google for not showing Google ads.

No thanks, I'll keep using Adblock.

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

pajtai wrote: post #11
criddell wrote: post #8

Blocking ads motivates some people but many others are motivated by the desire to not be tracked. When I read a paper magazine, nobody knows what pages I flip through, what ads I read, no profile is being built, etc... Why can't ads on the internet be as dumb? For the past 20 years, I've been hearing how ads will be less annoying once advertisers can target more effectively. I think the exact opposite has happened. L…

This is true. But ads are more targeted not to make it less annoying for you, but because people who sell stuff think they'll get a higher conversion rate the more targeted they get.... and that's hard to argue with. But I do think legislation to make you be tracked less would be awesome, but it'd be fighting money.

> people who sell stuff think they'll get a higher conversion rate the more targeted they get.... and that's hard to argue with.

Is it really? For me, targeted ads come up for either a) products I have already purchased or b) products I've looked at and then decided not to buy. I got my wife an espresso grinder for Christmas, ordered on Dec. 10, but AdSense is still showing me ads for grinders. There is exactly 0.00% chance of me buying another one.

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by ariwilson »

ymse wrote: post #23

Given that Google Ads are mostly used on third-party sites, does this mean they will be sharing some of that revenue with the sites that now loses their ads? If not, why should we give Google money to take potential income from smaller companies?

The sites make more money with Contributor than they would have with the ads, due to the ad auction:

https://support.google.com/contributor/answer/6084026?hl=en&...

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