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Russia's leading expert on criminal tattoos

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Trying to learn more about Russian prison tattoos some time ago. There is lots of contradictory and vague descriptions on the meanings and symbolism of Russian prison tattoos on the web. At times it seems a lot like tea leaf reading. The tattoos seem to mean anything you want. I wonder if there really is such a thing as a commonly understood tattoo language that criminals know and enforce. Maybe in soviet times, but…

I think location plays a large role in their 'meaning'/importance

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Bronnikov's elder son Vladimir ... also served in police. After 17 years of service, he was badly beaten undertaking his duties and his spine was broken. He now walks on crutches. His younger son Evgeniy was beaten to death in the street when trying to save a girl from rapists. What a dark reminder that in society's underbelly convict tattoos are a sign of prestige and no good deed goes unpunished. No wonder that in…

Yes, when I see NKVD/KGB/FSB officers in full uniform, I think of nothing but good deeds and altruism.

..the criminal underbelly of a society is usually a small-scale reaction to the crimes officially sanctioned by the state.

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Bronnikov's elder son Vladimir ... also served in police. After 17 years of service, he was badly beaten undertaking his duties and his spine was broken. He now walks on crutches. His younger son Evgeniy was beaten to death in the street when trying to save a girl from rapists. What a dark reminder that in society's underbelly convict tattoos are a sign of prestige and no good deed goes unpunished. No wonder that in…

Yes, when I see NKVD/KGB/FSB officers in full uniform, I think of nothing but good deeds and altruism. ..the criminal underbelly of a society is usually a small-scale reaction to the crimes officially sanctioned by the state.

> crimes officially sanctioned by the state.

Isn't this an oxymoron?

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Bronnikov's elder son Vladimir ... also served in police. After 17 years of service, he was badly beaten undertaking his duties and his spine was broken. He now walks on crutches. His younger son Evgeniy was beaten to death in the street when trying to save a girl from rapists. What a dark reminder that in society's underbelly convict tattoos are a sign of prestige and no good deed goes unpunished. No wonder that in…

Yes, when I see NKVD/KGB/FSB officers in full uniform, I think of nothing but good deeds and altruism. ..the criminal underbelly of a society is usually a small-scale reaction to the crimes officially sanctioned by the state.

That think that's giving too much credit to the criminal, organized crime all seems to come down to greed.

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Most certainly, Australia has a plethora of drug related tattoo meanings. E.g. "route 66" road signs are associated with speed use amongst some circles.

Why do people tattoo their specific drug addiction/use? Does it serve some purpose, like untraceable/unprovable communication to set up drug deals?

I guess it's kind of like having a Github sticker on your laptop.

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Yes, when I see NKVD/KGB/FSB officers in full uniform, I think of nothing but good deeds and altruism. ..the criminal underbelly of a society is usually a small-scale reaction to the crimes officially sanctioned by the state.

That think that's giving too much credit to the criminal, organized crime all seems to come down to greed.

Organized crime all comes down to grey zones.

Areas where regular business forced not to go: prostitution, drugs, arms trade, shark loans.

There are perhaps places where all the economy is one large grey zone, but other than that, regular business (which does indeed come down to greed) out-competes organized crime.

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> while it is known in Australia to have been associated with pedophiles. How that? If I were to sit in jail for molesting kids, the last thing I'd want is others to know about this. Pedophiles (and rapists) are the bottom in prison hierarchy.

I don't know about Australia but in Russia they don't ask you what you want. Such markings exist to warn others and there is usually a death penalty for removing/defacing one.

Yeah in Australia the markings of a spider or "rock spider" are usually inflicted upon paedophiles forcefully. I'm not sure of the penalty but as a subgroup of criminals within Australian jails paedophiles have been known to have a hard time.
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