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Bitcoin's mining difficulty has increased by 41.9% over the last 30 days

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Re: Bitcoin's mining difficulty has increased by 41.9% over the last 30 days

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What happens when we reach 100%?

Then no new bitcoins will be created and all mining profits will come from fees. That won't happen until 2140.

There's some very big ifs in that. We really have no idea what sort of breakthroughs might happen the next 125 years

Re: Bitcoin's mining difficulty has increased by 41.9% over the last 30 days

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post #11

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We re-learn why a deflationary currency is an awful idea.

ELI5 por favor

http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2014/04/money

Essentially, if you think that a currency will be worth more tomorrow than it is today there is little reason for investment (or even spending!). It quickly becomes a spiral where no one wants to spend. Inflation provides a nice kick in the pants for people to put their money to good use.

This isn't a concern yet for Bitcoin because in the scheme of world economies BTC simply doesn't matter (it could go away tomorrow without any noticeable effects), but if in the future it becomes a critical thing it would be a major concern.

Re: Bitcoin's mining difficulty has increased by 41.9% over the last 30 days

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post #11

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We re-learn why a deflationary currency is an awful idea.

Gold seemed to work for a long time.

They keep digging more of it up too, it's not like Bitcoin. It's also not a good thing to run an economy on, but that's another concern.

Re: Bitcoin's mining difficulty has increased by 41.9% over the last 30 days

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post #6

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What happens when we reach 100%?

Then blocks continue to be created, but no more coins are mined (in practice, we will be mining tiny little fractions of a coin for a very long time until it drops off to true zero).

If no more coins are mined (or the mining rate drops to almost negligible levels), is there still any incentive for people to keep the blockchain alive by computing power? Aside from keeping the whole system alive, I mean.

Re: Bitcoin's mining difficulty has increased by 41.9% over the last 30 days

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then blocks continue to be created, but no more coins are mined (in practice, we will be mining tiny little fractions of a coin for a very long time until it drops off to true zero).

If no more coins are mined (or the mining rate drops to almost negligible levels), is there still any incentive for people to keep the blockchain alive by computing power? Aside from keeping the whole system alive, I mean.

yes, transaction fees

Re: Bitcoin's mining difficulty has increased by 41.9% over the last 30 days

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Nobody on HN pointed out who is behind the increase... This is BitFury who just launched a 40 megawatt data center filled up with their new 16 nm chips which reportedly achieve approximately 0.06 joule per gigahash. They also use immersion cooling which gives them an insane PUE of 1.02. So the mining capacity of this DC alone is ~650 Phash/s! We saw an increase of ~200 Phash/s in the last 30 days, so presumably they are at only operating at 1/3rd of their capabilities so far:

40e6 (watt) / 0.06 (joule/gigahash) / 1e6 (petahash/gigahash) = ~650 petahash/second

BitFury's immersion cooling tech:

http://datacenterfrontier.com/immersion-cooling-bitcoin/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV7MDhqNyXE&t=0m42s (shows the fluid boiling - starts at 0m42s)

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151211005837/en/Bit...

BitFury's 16nm chips:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151216005453/en/BitF...

Re: Bitcoin's mining difficulty has increased by 41.9% over the last 30 days

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Bitcoin feels a bit like the gold standard. Massive mining operations dumping huge volumes of resources and energy to acquire some thing that is only mildly useful. It seems quite wasteful.

There's a pretty good writeup about this issue in the Stanford/Princeton Cryptocurrency Class:

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B4-bDFu_72Beelkxd3VlbXoyd0E&...

Excerpt: According to our estimates then, the whole Bitcoin network is consuming maybe 10% of a large power plant’s worth of electricity. Although this is not an insignificant amount of power, it's not yet a large amount of electricity compared to all the other things that people are using electricity for on the planet.

Any payment system requires energy and electricity. With traditional currency, lots of energy is consumed guarding and moving gold bullions around, running ATM machines, coin sorting machines, cash registers, and payment processing services, and transporting money in armored cars.

Some people say Bitcoin wastes energy because the energy expended computing SHA-256 hashes doesn’t serve any apparent purpose. But you could make this same argument for traditional currency as well — there’s a lot of energy being wasted and it doesn't serve any purpose besides maintaining the currency system. So, if we value Bitcoin as a useful currency system, then the energy required to support it is not really being wasted.

That said, we can ask if there’s a way to do better ...

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