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Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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In the US is legal to monitor babysitters / house cleaners with hidden cameras. Just don't record bathrooms etc.

The US is obviously a very fucked up place.

The US is a fucked up place because they want to make sure a babysitter doesn't shake their baby to death or a housecleaner doesn't break or pocket something without admitting it? Hyperbole much?

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Except a $10 spare smartphone can be turned into a wifi camera very easily. So it only works if they are using one of those two off the shelf cameras.

Are there any guides to doing this? We're about to have a baby, and don't want to drop a few hundred bucks on a baby video monitor system - I'd rather just ziptie a phone to the shelf above the crib.

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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One easier way to detect (without jamming afterwards), for iOS at least, is to install the "Fing" app, connect to the wifi and scan the network. Then you will know the connected devices and their names. Chances are that cameras will have easy to recognize names on them. EDIT: you'll get the MAC address too, so you can compare if they match camera companies.

Fing scares me. I know theoretically any app I install could be scanning my network but Fing actually says it is scanning my network.

On the Fing page it says: "Fing does not collect nor sends any detail about your environment, your accounts or your network to anybody. And that's guaranteed!"

Yet on the Fingbox page it says: "By installing Fing on a desktop workstation and logging into your account, you can perform operations on remote networks through the Fingbox cloud."

Those 2 things sound in conflict.

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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And don't forget to report those cameras to the authorities, since in many countries it is completely illegal to film people without their consent (in private places).

In the US is legal to monitor babysitters / house cleaners with hidden cameras. Just don't record bathrooms etc.

Stepping aside from legality, and speaking purely from ethics, there's a big difference between "hiring someone to provide a service for your own private home" and "renting out a temporary place of residence for someone".

Ethically speaking I'd say it's completely okay to monitor the former, whether that service is a plumber or a babysitter, and whether the monitoring is done with a camera or your own human eyes. Those service personnel shouldn't be expecting privacy while they provide services, anyway.

Ethically speaking I'd say it's wrong and a violation of privacy to monitor the latter, regardless of whether it is done with camera or eyes, without prior warning. This is because providing a place of residence implies providing some level of privacy. Forget cameras, you shouldn't generally enter a tenant's place of residence even with your human eyes, without letting them know in advance (e.g. at the very least by knocking).

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That disclaimer bugs me. Just admit you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and to consult a lawyer before using on equipment the user doesn't own and control. Instead it misleads the uninformed, and shows the slightly-informed you skimmed half a news article once.

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Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US is legal to monitor babysitters / house cleaners with hidden cameras. Just don't record bathrooms etc.

Stepping aside from legality, and speaking purely from ethics, there's a big difference between "hiring someone to provide a service for your own private home" and "renting out a temporary place of residence for someone". Ethically speaking I'd say it's completely okay to monitor the former, whether that service is a plumber or a babysitter, and whether the monitoring is done with a camera or your own human eyes. Tho…

I'd say that if you're renting to someone else, it's still your property so you should be free to monitor it, but not disclosing the presence of cameras or other monitoring devices should be illegal.

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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I like this because presumably it is not illegal to do so.

If you read the article at the end the author says it's legality is questionable due to FCC changes that include kicking somebody off the wireless as jamming them

Dropcams could be illegal in many states in this case since they can record audio... but laws should be updated to include video. (see two-party/all-party consent states: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws#Unite... )
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