Spot on. Java is such a sad language, so verbose, so cumbersome, so inexpressive, radiating such a condescending stupidity. Its pervasiveness today, at the end of fucking 2015, is just depressing.
You do realize, it's actually pretty good... otherwise it wouldn't be as "pervasive" as it is... (there's hundreds of programming languages, yet Java continues to be one of the most used)
Java's Cover (2001)
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#22No one loves it. C, Perl, Python, Smalltalk, and Lisp programmers love their languages. I've never heard anyone say that they loved Java. - You must be kidding me, ever been to any JUG meeting or JavaOne conference? There are millions of hardcore Java lovers at those places. Java has one of the the biggest developer community world wide. I love Java - it's one of the best programming language till date.
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#23So pg predicts that hackers are going to hate Java. Hackers mostly hate Java. Because of this, pg predicts Java will be unsuccessful. Java's actually pretty successful. This is kind of sobering. Possibly we overestimate the social influence of hackers.
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#24"the less one knows, the wiser one is"
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#25Looks like he was wrong.
I think this post proves two things: a) "books" are in fact very difficult to judge by their covers and b) predicting the future, even only a decade ahead and in an industry you live in, is a fruitless endeavor
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#26"I've never written a Java program, never more than glanced over reference books about it"
... yet he felt qualified to dismiss it all the same.
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#27Spot on. Java is such a sad language, so verbose, so cumbersome, so inexpressive, radiating such a condescending stupidity. Its pervasiveness today, at the end of fucking 2015, is just depressing.
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#28Spot on. Java is such a sad language, so verbose, so cumbersome, so inexpressive, radiating such a condescending stupidity. Its pervasiveness today, at the end of fucking 2015, is just depressing.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I do not realise that. Popularity doesn't equal quality. Summoning Paul Graham again: http://paulgraham.com/pypar.html
It is actually not a bad language and with an IDE like Eclipse or inteliJ you can be quite productive. Sure, they've screwed up majorly a couple of times like inventing JSP and going a bit overboard with J2EE. Overall it is not bad.
Just as the guy with two broken legs can get around a little bit using a wheelchair. Yes, the wheelchair might be great, but the poor bastard still can't dance.
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#30I tend to find his essays much less interesting and persuasive now than I used to. I'm not sure why.