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Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

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This is awesome. One observation: maybe in this case, including the number of subscribers is actually a deterrent for getting people to subscribe. I'm talking about the "Join over 1100 subscribers." line. You may be triggering a "damn, I'm going to have to compete with that many other developers for the same handful of jobs?" response instead of the usual "If that many people trust this guy with their email, it must…

That's a good point, even though 1100 is really not that much of a competition when you think about it. Five or more jobs per week, each requiring different skills, it really adds up in job opportunities. But I get your point - it makes a negative psychological effect, I'll consider removing it. Thanks!

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#22

The first item on the list is "I Will Teach You To Be Rich". That, to me, is a sign that I won't find serious opportunities on there.

To be fair, it's an actual company that's really called I will teach you to be rich. http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/ Although it sounds high pressure to work overtime, it actually sounds like a pretty interesting job. Apart from the PHP.

This sounds very illegal. Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal.

I wonder how they suggest to handle that.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#23
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When you are full-time employed, remotely, by a european company, and living in another european country, does anyone know : — do you set yourself up as a freelance consultant, and pay your healthcare and retirement fund yourself? — …or do you let the company pay that for you in the country they are based in, and somehow benefit from that? How does it work exactly for these social benefits that are very important in…

Disclaimer: I am not an accountant nor an employment lawyer.

Anti-disclaimer: I run a company in Spain, and pay people in other countries money to do things for the company.

My understanding is that in the EU your income tax, social security, etc, must be paid to the government in the country you are "tax resident" in. Typically, you are "tax resident" if you spend more than 180 days per year in a country. (Note: that doesn't mean that if you split your time equally between three countries you avoid being tax resident at all. If only avoiding tax was that easy...)

The company employing you _might_ be willing to help with the necessary headaches of abiding by the employment law of the country you are in. But they would more than likely prefer that you are self-employed/freelance/autonomous in the country you are in. Abiding by the employment law and tax law in your country of resident becomes your problem.

How exactly that works for your social benefits depends on the country in which you are tax resident. For example, here in Spain, a freelancer ("autónomo") is not automatically entitled to state unemployment benefits ("paro") if the work ends. But you are entitled to maternity leave and retirement pension. You'd need to talk to an accountant in your country to understand exactly how exactly being a freelancer affects your social welfare rights and responsibilities.

There certainly are some tax advantages to being a freelancer: eg. being a freelancer in Spain entitles you to claim a VAT refund on any business-related expense. That new computer you want to buy? Expect that in a year or so the tax department will refund you roughly 17% of the total purchase price (21/121 of the retail price).

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

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post #16

When you are full-time employed, remotely, by a european company, and living in another european country, does anyone know : — do you set yourself up as a freelance consultant, and pay your healthcare and retirement fund yourself? — …or do you let the company pay that for you in the country they are based in, and somehow benefit from that? How does it work exactly for these social benefits that are very important in…

It varies from country to country. I think most of EU countries require you be more than 6 months in the country to be an employee. Usually people have LTD for more flexibility and lower taxes.

US based companies can hire remote workers as 1099 contractors.

https://github.com/tadast/switching-to-contracting-uk/tree/f... https://github.com/lukasz-madon/awesome-remote-job

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

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post #16

When you are full-time employed, remotely, by a european company, and living in another european country, does anyone know : — do you set yourself up as a freelance consultant, and pay your healthcare and retirement fund yourself? — …or do you let the company pay that for you in the country they are based in, and somehow benefit from that? How does it work exactly for these social benefits that are very important in…

If your employer has a branch office in your country of residence, they could make you a regular employee of that branch and take care of all the legal/tax issues for you.

But you're just employed by the branch. You're not working for them. You're still working remotely with your colleagues elsewhere.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

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post #16

When you are full-time employed, remotely, by a european company, and living in another european country, does anyone know : — do you set yourself up as a freelance consultant, and pay your healthcare and retirement fund yourself? — …or do you let the company pay that for you in the country they are based in, and somehow benefit from that? How does it work exactly for these social benefits that are very important in…

In France it's risky to be self-employed and have only one customer, that could be re-qualified as a disguised employment.

I don't know exactly how that works with foreign companies.

edit: my remark on foreign company is that, by having no nexus in the country of the consultant, going after them seems difficult

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, it's an actual company that's really called I will teach you to be rich. http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/ Although it sounds high pressure to work overtime, it actually sounds like a pretty interesting job. Apart from the PHP.

This sounds very illegal. Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal. I wonder how they suggest to handle that.

Illegal where? Labour regulations are very country-specific. The EU directive covering this is... flexible.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, it's an actual company that's really called I will teach you to be rich. http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/ Although it sounds high pressure to work overtime, it actually sounds like a pretty interesting job. Apart from the PHP.

This sounds very illegal. Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal. I wonder how they suggest to handle that.

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Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, it's an actual company that's really called I will teach you to be rich. http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/ Although it sounds high pressure to work overtime, it actually sounds like a pretty interesting job. Apart from the PHP.

This sounds very illegal. Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal. I wonder how they suggest to handle that.

> Working more than 8h overall a day, no matter in how many jobs, is highly illegal.

EU working time directive? You can just opt out of that, and it doesn't apply anyway to lots of jobs like doctors, military etc, so it certainly isn't simply 'highly illegal'.

Re: Europe Remotely – EU-friendly remote dev jobs

#30

This is awesome. One observation: maybe in this case, including the number of subscribers is actually a deterrent for getting people to subscribe. I'm talking about the "Join over 1100 subscribers." line. You may be triggering a "damn, I'm going to have to compete with that many other developers for the same handful of jobs?" response instead of the usual "If that many people trust this guy with their email, it must…

funny, because it works both ways either you find the number big or small: "I'm competing against too many people" or "there is nobody on this half dead site".
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