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Let's compromise. I promise to be totally clear, transparent, and straightforward in my ticket purchases as long as the airlines are totally clear, transparent, and straightforward in their ticket pricing. Any takers? ...No?
I will take it - the airline charges the maximum their datamining of your information tells them you are able to tolerate.
Looking at the reactions of people to this topic, I come to believe there are two general approaches to life. Some people try to look at the whole game and want everyone to win, so they play by the rules. In terms of prisoner's dilemma, they choose to cooperate. Others notice that the market economy is designed around people being selfish, so they use it to justify defecting - minding only their own short-term intere…
If anybody needs to be shamed, it's the airlines themselves for arbitrary price discrimination.
When is it unethical for Facebook to pay less tax than the average working person? When is it unethical for BP to say they're sick of cleaning up their oil spills and they're going to stop doing it? When is it unethical for the bankers and mortgage lenders to do what they did in 2008? When companies interact with us, they appear to have no ethical obligations of any kind, so it's amusing to think we're somehow bound…
Because you're making a general point - since when one's unethical behaviour justifies you to retaliate in kind? Two wrongs doesn't make a right, etc.
Looking at the reactions of people to this topic, I come to believe there are two general approaches to life. Some people try to look at the whole game and want everyone to win, so they play by the rules. In terms of prisoner's dilemma, they choose to cooperate. Others notice that the market economy is designed around people being selfish, so they use it to justify defecting - minding only their own short-term intere…
Ex those considerations, do you really think they would (or could, given the competitive state of air service) leave money with the consumer because it's "more fair"?
Monkey see, monkey do: $%^@ them.*
*For values of @#$^ that don't actually include breaking laws. E.g. obtaining illegal access to their system(s) and creating yourself a ticket.
The airlines do everything legal to charge more and I do everything legal to pay less. The airline has an army of lawyers, lobbyists, and consultants and I have a VPN.
"Getting a good deal should comply with local laws and the travel company’s code of business conduct." Since when did an airline have the moral authority to declare a code of conduct for anyone but itself? Where did they find this lady?
Looking at the reactions of people to this topic, I come to believe there are two general approaches to life. Some people try to look at the whole game and want everyone to win, so they play by the rules. In terms of prisoner's dilemma, they choose to cooperate. Others notice that the market economy is designed around people being selfish, so they use it to justify defecting - minding only their own short-term intere…
I wouldn't segregate the general approaches to life in that sense. Providing different prices to different groups of people does not result in "everyone winning". It's a classical example of market segmentation, price based on the average ability to pay of someone who holds the currency. It entirely benefits the airliner, and their profits, to be able to do so. The "hidden city" tickets? A cheaper ticket to go from A…
You're right - the prices are not reflecting the costs. A typical traveler pays nowhere near the price they would if there was no segmentation. An average tourist ticket multiplied by number of passengers is barely enough to fuel a jet. And you have to pay the pilots, the airplane crew, the ground crew and still have enough to keep the lights on at the airport. Airlines are in a shitty position, and while probably some of it its their own fault, I'm not that sure if being hard on them is helping anyone.
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I will take it - the airline charges the maximum their datamining of your information tells them you are able to tolerate.
Which is basically how free market is supposed to work, right? ;).
Airlines have gotten really bad about ticket booking and market sector discrimination.