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State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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post #15

With the amount of Syrian/Afghan refugees flooding into Europe right now and Europes involvement in those wars, I imagine this sort of thing is going to be on the rise.

Their involvement in "those wars" being that they had to flee them?

Yes, for the most of the people fleeing that was the sum total of their involvement. And for a small percentage of those people they either are taking the fight with them or have other plans. It's a tough situation, on the one hand no right thinking person has a problem with sheltering refugees, on the other hand those very same people are worried about what the long term consequences of these mass movements of people will be. One thing is fairly certain, the Schengen agreement (which has done more for the unification of Europe than almost any other EU activity short of the launch of the Euro) is going to be a casualty.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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post #11
post #7

Next thing you know, a new and even more totally total mass surveillance law is passed. (Obviously, attacks will continue to happen from time to time.)

What this means is that France surveillance and intelligence already failed.

And wholesale US intelligence failed also, either that or they kept the intelligence to themselves.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their involvement in "those wars" being that they had to flee them?

Europes involvement

And in your imagination, who is resppnsible with what motive and why is that not baseless speculation?

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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post #9

A disaster. Obviously don't know yet who is responsible, but I don't understand why France is being targeted in this way. They are hardly terrorist enemy number one.

There are a lot of poor French Muslim men who are disaffected and marginalised. It is a target because it is where the terrorists are from.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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post #14

For people in and around Paris right now the #PorteOuverte hash tag is being used to help shelter those who cannot make it home safely.

Be careful with that. This wouldn't be too hard:

1. Enter house claiming to need to go somewhere. 2. Kill everybody. 3. Move to next willing house and repeat.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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post #7

Next thing you know, a new and even more totally total mass surveillance law is passed. (Obviously, attacks will continue to happen from time to time.)

The Snoopers Charter (Draft Communications Data Bill) is currently being pushed by the UK Government. The timing of Egypt and France is almost beyond belief. Opposition to it surely will fall off a cliff now.

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

#28
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How awesome, awesome comment. People are dying and the only thing you care about is "totally total mass surveillance law"....

We need to ask the question what kind of life we want for those who do live.

In the coming days or weeks, sure. Now?

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How awesome, awesome comment. People are dying and the only thing you care about is "totally total mass surveillance law"....

We need to ask the question what kind of life we want for those who do live.

Asking questions is simple. Take the responsibility and come up with a solution is hard

Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Europes involvement

And in your imagination, who is resppnsible with what motive and why is that not baseless speculation?

I am sorry I dont understand what you mean can you edit your comment and I will try and answer your question.
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