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Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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Re: Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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"The estimated cost of the police presence is more than £12m." So who should get fired for such a waste of police resources?

So whats the limit on how much society should spend to seek justice if someone raped you?

I'm not sure if you are being facetious, but that's actually exactly the right question to ask. Not only would it be great to explicitly know the exact number, but that number should be the same no matter who the victim (or perpetrator) is.

Re: Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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"The estimated cost of the police presence is more than £12m." So who should get fired for such a waste of police resources?

So whats the limit on how much society should spend to seek justice if someone raped you?

There wasn't any need to guard the Ecuadorian embassy, now or then. He couldn't have travelled out of the country without being arrested at the port or airport, and could have been picked up easily if he'd stayed at a house or hotel anywhere inside the UK.

People who are far less well known are routinely arrested by the police for failure to turn up in court. There was no need for this expensive 24 hour guard.

Re: Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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"The estimated cost of the police presence is more than £12m." So who should get fired for such a waste of police resources?

Depends on what the cost of not providing the police presence is. Is he worth more than £12m alive, when other countries may want him silenced (say by "wetwork")?

And by removing that police protection, perhaps they are trying to entice him to provide some £12m or more of information in light of the likelihood of that wetwork?

Re: Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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post #16
post #3

"The estimated cost of the police presence is more than £12m." So who should get fired for such a waste of police resources?

So whats the limit on how much society should spend to seek justice if someone raped you?

Smartly: as much as it can be afforded. Stupidly: 0.

This outcome was predictable from day 1, yet they still spent £12M. It wasn't to seek justice, it was to maintain appearances.

Re: Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So whats the limit on how much society should spend to seek justice if someone raped you?

I'm not sure if you are being facetious, but that's actually exactly the right question to ask. Not only would it be great to explicitly know the exact number, but that number should be the same no matter who the victim (or perpetrator) is.

I was actually being serious and I agree with you that it would be good with a defined number.

Re: Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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I'm surprised he hasn't been smuggled out in a diplomatic crate. Some of the shenanigans that went on with diplomatic bags shows that some countries are prepared to do this. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1132544.stm The Soviets using one to transport a tractor shows the bags can be big enough to get a person out. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2234/is-there-such-...

US brought down a Presidential Plane in Search of Snowden. Any sort of bag/crate big enough to fit a person would be opened immediately.

I'd send hundreds of them, every one full of old socks or something. Make it very expensive/annoying for them.

Re: Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

US brought down a Presidential Plane in Search of Snowden. Any sort of bag/crate big enough to fit a person would be opened immediately.

I'd send hundreds of them, every one full of old socks or something. Make it very expensive/annoying for them.

There's got to be Assange lookalikes that can muck with their surveillance.

Re: Police stop guarding embassy refuge of Julian Assange

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Allegedly. Who knows if it's true or not?

Yes, that's why I wrote "seek justice".

You also used the clause, "if someone raped you", stated as if it were a fact and not an allegation. Or, at least, that's how it reads to me.

If you posed the question, "How much would you want society to spend if someone raped you?" it would have carried a different connotation. But by asking "whats the limit on how much society should spend..." implies society knows for a fact that you were raped by someone.

Sorry if it's not the meaning you intended, but you made it sound like we should all believe Assange is guilty. I don't believe that's a reasonable conclusion.

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