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Re: IA or AI?

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> A lot of problems suddenly disappear. Not to be negative but citation needed. Also (I guess we'll cross "isolation" of the list): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_giftedness#Social...

An interesting point. I think your citation adds to the point though. In observing my "normal" peers, honestly, they do a lot of very strange things just to be considered normal. I mean, it's pretty expensive just to keep up with current trend of sunglasses size or sock length, just to be seen as normal. Not to mention that you have to hold your hands a certain way and talk incoherently. There is a lot of "normalizin…

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Re: IA or AI?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A lot of problems suddenly disappear. Not to be negative but citation needed. Also (I guess we'll cross "isolation" of the list): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_giftedness#Social...

An interesting point. I think your citation adds to the point though. In observing my "normal" peers, honestly, they do a lot of very strange things just to be considered normal. I mean, it's pretty expensive just to keep up with current trend of sunglasses size or sock length, just to be seen as normal. Not to mention that you have to hold your hands a certain way and talk incoherently. There is a lot of "normalizin…

A lot of smart men have been passionate about the proportion of columns, or the proportion of numbers, or even the aesthetics of curly braces. So why is it inane to care about the proportion of clothing, or the angle of the hand? I think people play to their strength. Also, the trend has to change as the world changes, because aesthetics is about the whole. So it's not because it's everchanging that it's necessarily arbitrary. The more one can afford not to care about it, the more impractical it is, but I wouldn't say it is impractical to society. It is architecture for the person.

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> an inability to attain mathematical fluency excludes the next generation from any implied augmented intelligence benefits. Well, only in some ways. I don't have to understand how a refrigerator works in order to use it. Improvements in quality of life produced by use of augmented intelligence ought to be accessible even to those without it.

The problem only happens when no one bothers to learn how something works. Look at all of those big iron systems out there that few people know how to program, there is reason Cobol and Fortran programmers still make good money. Oh and refrigeration is simple, it is just an application of the ideal gas law PV=nRT, and a pump. Refrigerant is compressed then cooled through use of a heat-sink then pumped into the refrig…

I'm not sure it's a problem. It's encapsulaiton. Systems should be designed so that there is a difference between the knowledge required to operate the device and the knowledge required to design/service it.

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The EWD by Dijkstra now actually mentions Engelbart by name: https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/ewd03xx/EWD387.PDF .

Props to Dijkstra for choosing the right topics to have strong opinions about, which is the hardest part in making an intellectual contribution -- far harder than being right or wrong about a given topic. The writeup is like code that's correct but for a sign error.

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The IA advance which is most obvious to me (yet somehow not yet a reality) is the nomenclator. In Rome, a nomenclator was a slave who remembered people's names for you, and as they approached would whisper to you that this is Gaius Tullius Castor, his wife is Flaminia, his eldest boy is Marcus, and he owns beanfields. A Google Glass camera on your eyeglasses and a speaker in your ear, hooked up to Facebook's face rec…

Google famously banned face recognition on Glass after I and some other developers made demo apps and APIs for using it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1aeMJY1AO0

Even now that Glass has been canceled for all but commercial use, it's still in the guidelines that you aren't allowed to use face recognition: > https://developers.google.com/glass/policies?hl=en " Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference and immediately present personal information identifying anyone other than the user, including use cases such as facial recognition and voice print. Glassware that do this will not be approved at this time. "

Amusingly, my nursing notes demo was me trying to be politically correct. People were more interested in things like cross referencing most wanted lists and sexual offender lists.

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The IA advance which is most obvious to me (yet somehow not yet a reality) is the nomenclator. In Rome, a nomenclator was a slave who remembered people's names for you, and as they approached would whisper to you that this is Gaius Tullius Castor, his wife is Flaminia, his eldest boy is Marcus, and he owns beanfields. A Google Glass camera on your eyeglasses and a speaker in your ear, hooked up to Facebook's face rec…

Google famously banned face recognition on Glass after I and some other developers made demo apps and APIs for using it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1aeMJY1AO0 Even now that Glass has been canceled for all but commercial use, it's still in the guidelines that you aren't allowed to use face recognition: > https://developers.google.com/glass/policies?hl=en " Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference an…

That ban made me uninterested in Glass. Face recognition would have been such a help to elderly folks. Add object recognition and GPS and you could have had an assistant to help the elderly through their day.

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The IA advance which is most obvious to me (yet somehow not yet a reality) is the nomenclator. In Rome, a nomenclator was a slave who remembered people's names for you, and as they approached would whisper to you that this is Gaius Tullius Castor, his wife is Flaminia, his eldest boy is Marcus, and he owns beanfields. A Google Glass camera on your eyeglasses and a speaker in your ear, hooked up to Facebook's face rec…

Google famously banned face recognition on Glass after I and some other developers made demo apps and APIs for using it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1aeMJY1AO0 Even now that Glass has been canceled for all but commercial use, it's still in the guidelines that you aren't allowed to use face recognition: > https://developers.google.com/glass/policies?hl=en " Don't use the camera or microphone to cross-reference an…

I can't see why. The tech just needs to be designed to handle malicious input a bit better and isolate certain aspects on a per-user basis. That people could pollute the recognition system's data set should've been assumed. Especially if marketing to the Internet crowd. ;)

Re: IA or AI?

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The idea of "notation as intelligence augmentation" is the reason (or one of them) that Haskell programmers are so enthusiastic about things like functors and monads; type theory is its own branch of mathematics that could be appended in the list of things like calculus and vector analysis [1], and might bring in the same kind of new levels of thought and abstraction.

[1] Disclaimer; I am not a mathematician.

Re: IA or AI?

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The IA advance which is most obvious to me (yet somehow not yet a reality) is the nomenclator. In Rome, a nomenclator was a slave who remembered people's names for you, and as they approached would whisper to you that this is Gaius Tullius Castor, his wife is Flaminia, his eldest boy is Marcus, and he owns beanfields. A Google Glass camera on your eyeglasses and a speaker in your ear, hooked up to Facebook's face rec…

The nomenclator is an interesting example. Far as Glass, I agree use cases like that. protomyth's had a lot of potential, too. The effect my brain injury had on memory, long-term and short-term, means I'd probably benefit. Quite an advance from the "cyborgs" wearing primitive stuff that just let them take notes and look ridiculsou at the same time.
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