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I can imagine that such an attack would be dealt with a mix of manual intervention and technical measures, something in between the Google.com search page outage that happens once in a blue moon, and the false routes for YouTube.com IPs that have been propagated several times during the past few years. Big companies that rely on Internet presence are quite pro-active, and there are teams of people whose job is to pre…
How exactly would that work. modify an instance of bind and check if the client is requesting to resolve 'google.com'? If true, then respond with the rouge IP? First we must make sure the client machine is set up to use our name servers, the ones we have control over.
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#22What would happen if someone actually managed to move google.com to a non-google registrar account under their control? Would someone step in and just seize it back? Can you imagine the magnitude of client devices hitting the wrong server for gmail,android updates,chrome even for a few minutes?
This looks like because Google's domain selling tool thought he bought the domain, he was authorized for the domain for all the rest of the Google tools, which is scary, but probably not earth shattering. Kind of depends on what you can do in the tools to send people to another site.
If they actually hijacked the domain, they would probably kill their DNS servers, but they could do a lot of things; including likely get some domain control certificates (but likely not from the registrars Google pins to, and a lot of people have google's certificate pins)
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How exactly would that work. modify an instance of bind and check if the client is requesting to resolve 'google.com'? If true, then respond with the rouge IP? First we must make sure the client machine is set up to use our name servers, the ones we have control over.
You don't even need to setup the client, if you have control over any number of intermediate routers, you can snag/reroute port 53 tcp/udp traffic any way you like. I tend to setup my home router to do this, so that all open dns traffic goes where I tell it to. It's also advised to do so for unauthenticated users on shared/public wifi so that you can provide an agreement page/site. Also, so that unauthenticated users…
You can put TLS into a DNS tunnel too, it's just even slower.
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#25Mods can you please change to the source URL instead? (Not that I'm a fan of linkedin...) https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/i-purchased-domain-googlecom-... Edit: Here's a mirror for those that happen to have linkedin.com nullrouted in hosts or something: https://archive.is/HKPhn
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#27What would happen if someone actually managed to move google.com to a non-google registrar account under their control? Would someone step in and just seize it back? Can you imagine the magnitude of client devices hitting the wrong server for gmail,android updates,chrome even for a few minutes?
I can imagine that such an attack would be dealt with a mix of manual intervention and technical measures, something in between the Google.com search page outage that happens once in a blue moon, and the false routes for YouTube.com IPs that have been propagated several times during the past few years. Big companies that rely on Internet presence are quite pro-active, and there are teams of people whose job is to pre…
Reading that along with the rest of this thread reminds me just how bad it is to have so much of the internet rely on large sites like this. The amount of trust and dependency that rests on Google is very dangerous. The amount of damage to the world that could result in a failure of their service is beyond imagination.
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Google has HSTS so requests will be prematurely terminated, however it'll still be a huge DDoS attack.
Well if you control the domain you can easily get an SSL cert (except some clients might pin the CA for google.com).