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Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by coherentpony » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 10:37 PM UTC

ethana wrote: post #18

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #5

Great for everyone still using Adblock Plus. The rest of us switched to uBlock Origin and never looked back.

What people doesn't know is that uBlock makes use of EasyList as one of its default block lists. EasyList is maintained by ABP's parent company. That list itself has built-in whitelist that could not be turn off without revamping the list itself. That list contains upward of 60k of rules and no one has time to evaluate that for free. uBlock can make all kind of independence claims it wants, but at the end of the day,…

Not sure why you're being downvoted. Seems like an entirely reasonable comment to me.

Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by mverwijs » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 10:44 PM UTC

coherentpony wrote: post #21

ethana wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What people doesn't know is that uBlock makes use of EasyList as one of its default block lists. EasyList is maintained by ABP's parent company. That list itself has built-in whitelist that could not be turn off without revamping the list itself. That list contains upward of 60k of rules and no one has time to evaluate that for free. uBlock can make all kind of independence claims it wants, but at the end of the day,…

Not sure why you're being downvoted. Seems like an entirely reasonable comment to me.

Because the comment has nothing to do with the parent.

The fact that uBlock uses ABP lists is completely irrelevant. People choose uBlock because it uses compute resources more efficiently. Regardless of the list.

Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by andreasvc » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 10:53 PM UTC

btgeekboy wrote: post #15

disillusioned wrote: post #4

ABP memory usage in Chrome made me switch to router-level ad blocking. Added bonus: it works on mobile too. I have weird page renderings sometimes, and whitelisting a legit site is a pain, but it's overall a huge value to off-load the blocking to the router.

Do you have any documentation on this? It's something I've been interested in setting up.

I use a similar technique based on DNS: http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/zero/

Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by padenot » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 10:58 PM UTC

bitwarrior wrote: post #3

Not really a bug, more of an enhancement.

This is Mozilla jargon. Anything that is tracked in Bugzilla is a "bug". I've opened bug in Bugzilla to change the chair at my desk, for example (I work at Mozilla).

Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by ssalazar » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 10:58 PM UTC

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #5

Great for everyone still using Adblock Plus. The rest of us switched to uBlock Origin and never looked back.

I switched back to ABP when uBlock started universally blocking Sourceforge. I understand Sourceforge has engaged in a number of very shady practices lately, but I need Numpy for my job and I don't have time to work around nanny software.

Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by Steltek » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 10:59 PM UTC

kazinator wrote: post #20

reitanqild wrote: post #17

Hopefully they could also get around to fix the usability bug where the back button on the right click menu disappear if anything is selected...

Wow, that's quite weird. Not just the back button but refresh, bookmark (star icon), Save Page As ... As I type this comment, I'm noticing that you get almost this same reduced context menu when you right click on the edit box (with additional items like Paste and Check Spelling). Maybe the intent is that you don't unintentionally reload the page or back out when you're selecting. But then Backspace will navigate bac…

It's been that way in Firefox for as long as I can remember (user since Firefox started). I believe the actual intent is that the right click menu is a "context" menu and not a shortcut menu. In this, case, the context is that you have text highlighted. Without a selection, the context is the page.

Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by kbenson » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 11:00 PM UTC

mverwijs wrote: post #22

coherentpony wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. Seems like an entirely reasonable comment to me.

Because the comment has nothing to do with the parent. The fact that uBlock uses ABP lists is completely irrelevant. People choose uBlock because it uses compute resources more efficiently. Regardless of the list.

It's not irrelevant. People may assume they are switching to an entirely independent project when moving to uBlock, but a dependency has now been pointed out. Whereas previously, I may have assumed that if Ad Block ceased to be, or their servers were having problems I would be completely unaffected, now I know I might be. This is useful information for anyone who "switched to uBlock Origin and never looked back."

Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 11:01 PM UTC

ssalazar wrote: post #25

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #5

Great for everyone still using Adblock Plus. The rest of us switched to uBlock Origin and never looked back.

I switched back to ABP when uBlock started universally blocking Sourceforge. I understand Sourceforge has engaged in a number of very shady practices lately, but I need Numpy for my job and I don't have time to work around nanny software.

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Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by kbenson » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 11:04 PM UTC

jtriangle wrote: post #10

disillusioned wrote: post #4

ABP memory usage in Chrome made me switch to router-level ad blocking. Added bonus: it works on mobile too. I have weird page renderings sometimes, and whitelisting a legit site is a pain, but it's overall a huge value to off-load the blocking to the router.

If you're not on your network and you're on android and you're rooted you can sideload adaway to get ad blocking everywhere, including app-based ads.

Or set up a VPN to the same network that the router level blocking is on. Presumably if you can set up router level blocking, a VPN shouldn't be that big of a hurdle.

Re: Mozilla fixed a 14-year-old bug in Firefox, Adblock Plus uses less memory

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Post by aganders3 » Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 11:08 PM UTC

ssalazar wrote: post #25

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #5

Great for everyone still using Adblock Plus. The rest of us switched to uBlock Origin and never looked back.

I switched back to ABP when uBlock started universally blocking Sourceforge. I understand Sourceforge has engaged in a number of very shady practices lately, but I need Numpy for my job and I don't have time to work around nanny software.

Nanny software you installed yourself? In any case, NumPy is on GitHub now.