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Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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I appreciate the effort, although I'm annoyed that FastCoExist mentions Mountain View and Santa Clara, while avoiding mentioning Sunnyvale, the actual 'heart' of Silicon valley and right there on the map between Mountain View and Santa Clara. But hometown prejudices aside, the challenges are in connecting existing stuff. For example, once you get to the Stevens Creek Trail you are good to go right up to Goole's campus. Sunnyvale has been adding protected bike lanes that cross it east/west to aid that effort.

I suggested to the Sunnyvale city council rather than remove a couple of lanes from El Camino they add an elevated bike pathway right down the center. You can ride on El Camino from Gilroy to Milbrae and if it had an out of traffic bike lane on it then you could open up a lot of the bay area to bikes.

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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> Google is also hoping that other areas copy their data-driven approach of mapping out stress on bike routes, and finding the best places to invest.

Previous week, we had the Fiets Tel Week [0] (Bicycle count week) in The Netherlands. You could download and install an app, which gathers data about cycling behavior. Connected organisations can now start to use this data to optimize bicycle routes.

[0]: http://www.fietstelweek.nl/

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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I just biked last evening from downtown San Jose to the southern vicinity of the Google campus. There are two main options: Central Expressway or something close and parallel to it, which I've declined. Or trails near the bay shore, which is what I chose. Bad choice. The trails are for the most part unpaved. Riding my sleek, rigid road bike on those things was torture. Never again. If those trails were paved, that wo…

I used to take the trails by the bay from the Googleplex to North San Jose - most is unpaved gravel, and then you pass by a smelly waste treatment plant and get on some paved trails. Even on a hybrid, it was not the most pleasant cycling.

Those were at least dedicated bike trails, which is more than I can say about a lot of other areas in South Bay. I would never attempt to take Shoreline over 101 and compete with all the drivers trying to get on the highway on-ramp.

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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A good way to accomplish this (not mentioned in the article) would be to build more housing close to Mountain View's campus. Office space has been outstripping housing growth in Mountain View for a very long time. See for example https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/01/stop-being-bullied-lets-sue... .

Mountain View and most of the other SV cities want to maintain their quiet suburban image, nevermind that they are home to some of the biggest tech companies in the world. Until residents start voting the other way, housing will continue to be in very short supply.

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about public transport you can take the bikes with you on, and nice bike paths in the denser areas?

The denser areas, especially the bay side belt are quite are quite bike friendly. Public transportation is a completely different question, bikes on buses do not work, some train services can be adopted with special carriages to carry bikes on board. The main issue isn't just roads its and entire infrastructure, e.g. giving bikes priority over motor vehicles like in some European countries which might not work well,…

Why do bikes on busses not work? They have this already, as well as bike storage on the regional trains.

Do you have a citation for bike lanes digging into sidewalk? I've literally never heard of that, especially in the US where sidewalks are never near bike lanes and separated by a curb/parking/grass.

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about public transport you can take the bikes with you on, and nice bike paths in the denser areas?

The denser areas, especially the bay side belt are quite are quite bike friendly. Public transportation is a completely different question, bikes on buses do not work, some train services can be adopted with special carriages to carry bikes on board. The main issue isn't just roads its and entire infrastructure, e.g. giving bikes priority over motor vehicles like in some European countries which might not work well,…

Why do bikes on busses not work? They have this already, as well as bike storage on the regional trains.

Do you have a citation for bike lanes digging into sidewalk? I've literally never heard of that, especially in the US where sidewalks are never near bike lanes and separated by a curb/parking/grass.

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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I just biked last evening from downtown San Jose to the southern vicinity of the Google campus. There are two main options: Central Expressway or something close and parallel to it, which I've declined. Or trails near the bay shore, which is what I chose. Bad choice. The trails are for the most part unpaved. Riding my sleek, rigid road bike on those things was torture. Never again. If those trails were paved, that wo…

I know its not an option for everyone, but a good cyclecross bike will do wonders for that kind of commute. I picked up a hybrid bike and got a set of tires with some tread on them and I can now handle gravel fairly well, and still get good rolling resistance on the rest of my ride

I had a hybrid with fat tires, which I used to ride on trails like that. It makes the ride somewhat more bearable, yes.

But the point is - no pavement, no speed, regardless of what kind of bike your using. Pave those things, and your average speed on a bike would double at least.

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

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Good luck, SV is what 4-5 times (if not more) larger than Copenhagen and consists of spotty urban, suburban, industrial areas, connected by high speed motorways and highways.

Downtown Mountain View (like the Caltrain/VTA station) to Google is quite bikeable distance-wise, except for a few poorly-designed sections. You basically have to go over the freeway somehow, and to do that, you have to merge with traffic cutting over the bike lane to get on or off the freeway. I did this exactly once, people are not looking for bikes so you just have to stand and wait for a break. Good luck during commuting hours. (I think Shoreline actually has a button to press to give you a "walk signal", but I don't see a light to actually stop traffic. I've only tried Rengstorff. )

That said you can detour a bit and take the Steven's Creek trail, which is quite alright. Though very very very dark at night. You'll want a super-powerful light for that ride. Even then it's still scary. (My aforementioned trip on Rengstorff was to go to REI to buy a bike light for that purpose :)

Anyway, safe bicycle infrastructure would make Mountain View wonderful for bike commuting. The distances are bicycle friendly, and the weather is almost always perfect for biking. If Mountain View had housing prices and bike infrastructure that was comparable to New York City, I would be happy to move there.

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

#29
There's actually a lot of low-hanging fruit that could make Silicon Valley a lot more bike-friendly with virtually no real-estate investment:

Put up better lighting on the Stevens Creek Trail, enough so that you can see the full trail and surrounding woods after dark. This alone would've doubled the amount of trips I spent biking to work when I was at Google: the limiting factor was that after daily savings time ended, I'd usually finish up work when it was dark out, and my bike's lights aren't really sufficient on that trail. I also know a number of female cyclists who won't ride the trail after dusk because they don't know who might be lurking in the shadows.

Pave the Bay Trails. There's a section by Palo Alto and another by Shoreline that get good use because they're paved. The connecting paths between them and over by Moffett and San Jose are unpaved, and only the most dedicated mountain bikers tend to brave them because it's a very bumpy ride. If you paved over the rest of the existing trails, you could bike from downtown San Jose all the way to the Googleplex via Guadalupe Trail and the Bay Trails.

Add more bike cars to Caltrain. The existing bike car can get really full during good weather. Adding more trains may not be possible, but adding another car to existing trains should be reasonably inexpensive.

Set apart the bike lane on Central Expressway. Central Expressway has a bike lane. You'd have to be crazy to ride on it, because cars whiz by you at 60 mph, they're not expecting to see you, they're often exiting or entering on cloverleafs, and there is nothing separating you from them. A concrete barrier & fence together with a few tunnels under the onramps would do a lot to improve safety, and make Central a viable North/South bike corridor. The real estate already exists for this.

Build more pedestrian/bike-only connections between streets that almost line up but don't quite. For example, a pedestrian bridge across Caltrain between Sunset & Pajaro Ave would let cyclists bike from South Sunnyvale to North Sunnyvale while avoiding busy Mary & Matilda Aves, putting their whole trip through quiet residential neighborhoods. A similar connection between Escuela and Farley (where there's already a traffic light) would connect the dense apartment complexes on California with the Googleplex via the Permanente Creek Trail, though I suspect it'd be bitterly resisted by people on the Farley side because the demographics of those neighborhoods are very different. A pedestrian crosswalk (with a light) between Sleeper and Cuesta Park and then a cut-through on the edge of Cuesta Park via Gantry Way to Rose Ave would link the Stevens Creek Trail and everything that feeds into it with very low-traffic, residential streets that go all the way to downtown Los Altos.

Re: Google Wants to Make Silicon Valley as Bike-Friendly as Copenhagen

#30

I just biked last evening from downtown San Jose to the southern vicinity of the Google campus. There are two main options: Central Expressway or something close and parallel to it, which I've declined. Or trails near the bay shore, which is what I chose. Bad choice. The trails are for the most part unpaved. Riding my sleek, rigid road bike on those things was torture. Never again. If those trails were paved, that wo…

Some lights would also be nice. Car roads get lights, why not bike roads?

I've commuted between the Google campus and Santa Clara by bike, via the Bay Trail, before. I didn't mind the unpaved nature of the trails, I was using a mountain bike. It was fast enough. On the way home after dark though, a little scary. I was quite surprised that I was not eaten by a Mountain Lion. I was more surprised by bikes going the other direction with no lights whatsoever.

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