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Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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Frutiger's personality and work are sensitively depicted in two documentaries that are worth watching: "Adrian Frutiger - Typographer" (1999) [0] and "The Man of Black and White: Adrian Frutiger" (2005) [1]. "Just My Type", Simon Garfield's wildly popular book on typefaces, has a chapter titled "What is it about the Swiss?" which has a whole section dedicated to Frutiger. [2] Frutiger's design philosophy is beautiful…

Do you know where to find them? Preferably free, if they're on an archive somewhere or similar. They seem to be in german as well, am I correct in this?

"Adrian Frutiger - Typographer" (1999) was released in English, French, German and Italian. It was released in DVD format in 2004. It's listed on amazon.de [0] but seems to be out of stock at the moment. It seems to be available in libraries across Germany and Switzerland [1].

"The Man of Black and White: Adrian Frutiger" (2005) was released in Swiss German and German in DVD format. It's also listed on amazon.de [2] but seems to be out of stock at the moment. The San Francisco Public Library [3] seems to have a copy though.

Sebastian Rohner of R.Films shot an interview with Adrian Frutiger at his home in Switzerland in 2007. It's available in German on YouTube [4].

[0] http://www.amazon.de/Adrian-Frutiger-Schriftengestalter/dp/B...

[1] https://www.worldcat.org/title/adrian-frutiger-schriftengest...

[2] http://www.amazon.de/Adrian-Frutiger-Mann-Schwarz-Weiss/dp/3...

[3] https://www.worldcat.org/title/mann-von-schwarz-und-weiss-ad...

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipGFasprntg

Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know where to find them? Preferably free, if they're on an archive somewhere or similar. They seem to be in german as well, am I correct in this?

"Adrian Frutiger - Typographer" (1999) was released in English, French, German and Italian. It was released in DVD format in 2004. It's listed on amazon.de [0] but seems to be out of stock at the moment. It seems to be available in libraries across Germany and Switzerland [1]. "The Man of Black and White: Adrian Frutiger" (2005) was released in Swiss German and German in DVD format. It's also listed on amazon.de [2]…

Thank you for being so thorough and informative though I seemingly won't get hold of these films. After reading the comment thread in the "playing with pigs" article, this is a ray of sunshine.

Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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very sad to hear - he at least achieved the status where people all over the world are going to miss and remember him

Exactly, and yet people look at me weird when I express that being remembered is a worthy pursuit of one's existence, and that the enjoyment of solitary creation is comparable to that of hanging out having some more socially accepted form of 'fun'

Only you don't get to enjoy "being remembered".

Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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It's interesting to compare typefaces of road signs across Europe. Frutiger is pretty nice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger_(typeface) I like (am used to?) the Italian one too: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabeto_Normale (derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_(typeface) ) I don't much care for the Austrian/German ones though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 - apparently it was designed…

My favorite in the U.S. that I hope catches on is ClearView, which I first noticed in Madison, Wisconsin: https://promega.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/better-living-throu...

Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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very sad to hear - he at least achieved the status where people all over the world are going to miss and remember him

Exactly, and yet people look at me weird when I express that being remembered is a worthy pursuit of one's existence, and that the enjoyment of solitary creation is comparable to that of hanging out having some more socially accepted form of 'fun'

Yes, assuming it is being remembered for something other humans appreciate and are grateful for (as is the case here).

Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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It's interesting to compare typefaces of road signs across Europe. Frutiger is pretty nice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger_(typeface) I like (am used to?) the Italian one too: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabeto_Normale (derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_(typeface) ) I don't much care for the Austrian/German ones though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 - apparently it was designed…

My favorite in the U.S. that I hope catches on is ClearView, which I first noticed in Madison, Wisconsin: https://promega.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/better-living-throu...

It's not going to happen in the US[1]:

> In April 2014, FHWA indicated it expects to rescind Interim Approval to use Clearview.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearview_%28typeface%29

Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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It's interesting to compare typefaces of road signs across Europe. Frutiger is pretty nice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger_(typeface) I like (am used to?) the Italian one too: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabeto_Normale (derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_(typeface) ) I don't much care for the Austrian/German ones though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 - apparently it was designed…

I wonder how much the DIN font is optimized for longer german words. While I don't like it as much as the others, Frutiger would be much wider than it, which in practical terms might be bad.

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It's interesting to compare typefaces of road signs across Europe. Frutiger is pretty nice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger_(typeface) I like (am used to?) the Italian one too: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabeto_Normale (derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_(typeface) ) I don't much care for the Austrian/German ones though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 - apparently it was designed…

"Via", used on danish railways, is somewhat famous for it's iconic lowercase "g", saving space on signs which usually don't have much vertical height: http://typedesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Kontrapunkt_D...

That g in type design circles is often referred to as the "Copenhagen" or "Danish" g because of its prevalence there... it seems like the Danes just don't like writing the last part of the g!

For instance, this sign from 1897 [1] contains many examples of it, even on the street sign on the top right corner.

For more examples, I suggest a browse through http://www.copenhagentype.dk/

[1] http://www.lundwp.lamp.magnifik.dk/wp-content/uploads/2013/1...

Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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It's interesting to compare typefaces of road signs across Europe. Frutiger is pretty nice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger_(typeface) I like (am used to?) the Italian one too: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfabeto_Normale (derived from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_(typeface) ) I don't much care for the Austrian/German ones though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 - apparently it was designed…

I wonder how much the DIN font is optimized for longer german words. While I don't like it as much as the others, Frutiger would be much wider than it, which in practical terms might be bad.

German is pretty common in Switzerland, too...

Re: Adrian Frutiger has died

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Gill Sans and Zapf's Optima were the first big humanist fonts, but they are really best used sparsely. Zapf died earlier this year, by the way.

But with Adrian Frutiger's Frutiger the whole world was blown open. Helvetica had a predecessor fairly like it in Akzidenz Grotesk, but Frutiger was something else entirely. Grotesques had been around for decades prior to Helvetica. Frutiger was a revolution. I and everybody should know that our visual world is markedly different because of Adrian Frutiger.

Right now, I am on a Windows tablet. Segoe UI, Tahoma, Arial, Verdana, Calibri, Microsoft's (and Matthew Carter's in particular) font efforts here were, but for Arial, so very much direct descendants, if not copies, of Frutiger's Frutiger. The default font in Microsoft Word must count Frutiger as it's most influential ancestor, bar none.

On Mac OS X, Lucida Sans is just the same, carrying Frutiger's DNA utterly. And on Linux, Bitstream Vera is just the same.

And it's not just Frutiger. Mac OS X's new default font, San Francisco is very much Univers, with some DIN. Univers is the designer's default font of choice for anywhere that Helvetica isn't chosen. I love its condensed form, as used here by Australia Post, and its numbering system was influential too and expressed an incredible range of variation within a single family. It is the ultimate tight font.

Avenir was a wonderful reinterpretation of Futura, Serifa is the most sensible slab serif, and the only generally acceptable one next to Rockwell... and that's nothing to say of the cross-pollination of his Frutiger with Univers and Helvetica. Think Roboto and basically half of what's on Google Fonts.

His influence on Erik Spiekermann, who drew some fonts that blew the visual landscape open in the 90s and early 2000s is insane when combined with the dutch Thesis and Scala. His influence on every fixed width font that has become popular on computers after Courier New is similarly huge.

Adrian Frutiger is, with no doubt, the person that drew our languages the most in the past century, Akzidenz Grotesk coming from 1896. His shapes influenced every comment you read here more than any other person in the past century. He made things legible and beautiful. Even for computers he did, with OCR-B.

I think that now with us in a post-Frutiger era, it's going to take a very, very long while for someone to come along and change our written language and visual world with such a bombshell as he did. If ever again - that is a very serious question.

We are now entering an area where there's fewer new ideas, but refinement and cross-pollination. The landscape seems like it's settling, with typefaces like Gotham and San Francisco and Roboto being very evolutionary... but with not that much of a way forward? There's been few new strands of DNA in the typeface world since Spiekermann's Meta. (and its very contemporary siblings Thesis and Scala)

Let's hope that like the Dalai Lama, we can find Frutiger reincarnated in a new form so that in a few decades he may once again shine us a light and bring to us a genuine future, like his Frutiger had brought upon us before.

Either that or we just A-B test signage typefaces out the wazoo and see if something as amazing as that somehow emerges a million generations from now, possibly even within the confines of the Latin alphabet. DIN 1451, which had some influence an Frutiger, isn't spent yet, I don't think. Meta probably is spent by now. Gill Sans is getting close, because of Gotham. Frutiger is getting there :/

We now live in a post-Frutiger world. That's kind of scary, if you think about it.

Whatever comes, I hope to at least see the next Frutiger's work and what it means for mankind before I die. I expect it to be interesting.

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