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Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by 01Michael10 »

dagw wrote: post #10
exodust wrote: post #2

How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Any Tesla movie would probably be depressing as fuck. Kid genius comes to America to work for his hero, but decides to strike out on his own to change the world after a disagreement over money. Ends up failing miserably and being crushed by his former hero and employer. Slowly goes insane and dies poor and largely forgotten.

Don't forget Tesla had zero known love interests and never married (possibly gay).

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by angdis »

dagw wrote: post #10
exodust wrote: post #2

How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Any Tesla movie would probably be depressing as fuck. Kid genius comes to America to work for his hero, but decides to strike out on his own to change the world after a disagreement over money. Ends up failing miserably and being crushed by his former hero and employer. Slowly goes insane and dies poor and largely forgotten.

That actually sounds like very interesting fodder for a hit movie.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by Roodgorf »

Joeboy wrote: post #8
ZenoArrow wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "That isn't a story they want to tell. __period__ Why would they? What benefit of mass entertainment would it serve? Hint: Look at the etymology of `entertain`." Tesla was an interesting character and had an interesting life. If you're concerned about whether his story could be dramatised, it's worth remembering we had films about Stephen Hawking and Alan Turing last year, both of which were successful at the box o…

The issue is as much "is there an established audience" as "could the story be dramatised". I probably have a biased perspective because Turing, Hawking and I are British, but my guess would be a lot more people at least recognise their names than would recognise Tesla's (aside from as an electric car).

Really? I feel like most people outside of CS/Mathematics have little to no idea who Alan Turing is. Tesla, on the other hand, has a seemingly large cult following due to the strange, almost mythological details of his life and inventive process. I've known plenty of people who knew more about who Tesla was than they even did about Hawking.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by Vexs »

dagw wrote: post #10
exodust wrote: post #2

How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Any Tesla movie would probably be depressing as fuck. Kid genius comes to America to work for his hero, but decides to strike out on his own to change the world after a disagreement over money. Ends up failing miserably and being crushed by his former hero and employer. Slowly goes insane and dies poor and largely forgotten.

No worse than the Turing movie with Bernard Cumbersnatch. Tragedy is great movie material.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by Roodgorf »

Probably singing to the choir, but Founders at Work[1] has a great interview with Wozniak that gives an interesting glimpse into some stories about Jobs in the early days of Apple. In true Woz fashion it also focuses a lot on the hardware he designed back then, which is also a real fun read.

[1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/98233.Founders_at_Work

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by cafard »

dagw wrote: post #10
exodust wrote: post #2

How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Any Tesla movie would probably be depressing as fuck. Kid genius comes to America to work for his hero, but decides to strike out on his own to change the world after a disagreement over money. Ends up failing miserably and being crushed by his former hero and employer. Slowly goes insane and dies poor and largely forgotten.

Ah, but Hollywood seems to love its engineers and scientists best as victims: see Turing and Nash. And for that matter, you could count The Social Network as the same kind of narrative: has the millions, but not the girl.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by digi_owl »

exodust wrote: post #2

How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

As many as they feel like, clearly.

Here is the thing, its not just about iPhones.

Apple products have, since the early Mac, had a oddly special place in media production.

I have seen a national broadcaster decide to standardize their production chain on Apple hardware and software, when the rest of the nation is basically in Microsoft's pocket.

Frankly i think Apple would have been long dead, and both the iPod and iPhone a massive flop, if this connection had not existed.

Because with it, the journalists and whatsnot end up keeping an extra keen eye on Apple because anything from there affects them directly. So when a new product shows up, even outlets that usually do not mention tech news ends up writing an article about it.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by Apocryphon »

Bulk70 wrote: post #13
exodust wrote: post #2

How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

> How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? One good one will do.

Pirates of Silicon Valley? And it even has enough content to be a Gates/Microsoft movie!

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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Post by wuschel »

exodust wrote: post #2

How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Well, the question is, apart from money, what is the motivation for the movie?

For sure, Woz would like to set some things straight and tell his perspective on things. I once stumbled about a comment from Woz regarding the Steve Jobs movie. He was not very pleased with the narrative of the Jobs film.

The comment is an interesting read, and it can be found at:

https://plus.google.com/+CarmsPerez/posts/GnVTvQNgvpf

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