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Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

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Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

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I use mu4e[1] to read, search and refile my emails, and there's a keyboard shortcut for viewing an HTML email in a browser. offlineimap[2] handles inbound messages. I love it!

But for writing email, I still tend to jump over to Apple Mail. msmtp[3] handles outbound messages on those occasions when I choose to fire off a message from within mu4e.

[1] http://www.djcbsoftware.nl/code/mu/mu4e.html

[&] https://github.com/djcb/mu

[2] https://github.com/OfflineIMAP/offlineimap

[3] http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/

Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

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post #18

I still use mutt (and default to text), but I don't see anyone else doing this, even in my geek coworkers or friends. So I'm a bit surprised by this article. I use mutt because it's very very fast, and quite customizable (I maintain a kind of 0-inbox through a set of hotkeys, + spamassin + procmail). To handle numerous mailing-lists with medium volume, it's so far the best I've seen. I tried many email clients (on Wi…

Same here. I can sort through 300 emails in a few minutes, removing/organizing the cruft into folders, and keeping only a handful of them I need to reply to.

That, plus excellent PGP support, just makes mutt a much better email client that any other existing ones, local or web.

Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

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post #13

I don't know any security experts who do this. I do know a bunch of old-school nerds who use mutt because that's what they got started with.

I don't think people use mutt because of security (other than good PGP support). I think people use mutt because they like the efficiency of a lean, terminal based, email client.

Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

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post #19

Most "Security Experts" are working for consultancy, tech firms, and government agencies so they probably use plenty of other clients. The majority will probably run Outlook since Exchange is the defacto mail-server standard for any organization (that isn't tied to Lotus because 45 years ago the CEO had to sacrifice a goat to appease IBM to spare his 1st born), the rest will probably use Gmail or any other web-based…

You can use mutt with Exchange servers and Gmail servers

Mutt and Exchange? Bliss! Would you happen to have a doc link handy?

Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

#25
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use mutt with Exchange servers and Gmail servers

Mutt and Exchange? Bliss! Would you happen to have a doc link handy?

I'm not sure about builtin support but there is always davmail (http://davmail.sourceforge.net/) for exchange

Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

#26

I'm not sure I buy the reasoning on "surface area", at least not the specific comparisons in the article. It seems unfair to count Chrome but not Unix. For that matter, shouldn't we count the surface area of everything that touches the email as it hops around, including routers, etc? And isn't that the whole problem with email that the protocol does not require secure transport? So, seems like the only way to make th…

Right.

"Let's switch from an email client written in a safe high level language that's also running inside multiple sandboxes and which has a full time security team (e.g. gmail) to ...... a mail client written in C"

Doesn't seem like a great approach.

Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

#27
post #18

I still use mutt (and default to text), but I don't see anyone else doing this, even in my geek coworkers or friends. So I'm a bit surprised by this article. I use mutt because it's very very fast, and quite customizable (I maintain a kind of 0-inbox through a set of hotkeys, + spamassin + procmail). To handle numerous mailing-lists with medium volume, it's so far the best I've seen. I tried many email clients (on Wi…

Subscribe to LKML or one of the subsystem mailing lists (e.g. dri-devel). Pretty much the majority of Linux kernel developers seem to be using Mutt. (Disclosure: Me too, since 1997 in fact when I needed to replace ELM.)

Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

#28

I don't use mutt anymore, but I still feel it's a beautiful client, both in its simplicity and its appearance (take the screenshot from the article, for example). I probably should start using it again since I'm transitioning away from Gmail to a traditional mail host.

I use Alpine instead; tried mutt first, but found it abstruse to set up.

Yeah, I'm biased towards (Al)pine, would be interesting to know how does Mutt compares with it

Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt

#29
There are several slightly less hardcore alternatives to Mutt for those wanting a more modern e-mail experience without the security baggage of running an entire browser. Sylpheed for instance is a very pleasant text-only MUA (http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/). For added peace of mind it does not take long to write an AppArmor profile to further confine Sylpheed to just the parts of your filesystem you'd like it to be able to access.
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