We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent • Hacker News Board

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by toomuchtodo » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 5:28 PM UTC

ddoscampaign wrote: post #14

This is brilliant because the main cost of running gear is power draw (PDUs / electrical circuits). Having OEM/ODM blade ARM setup a-la sgi cloudrack/supermicro is the way to drive costs to the floor, in a Backblaze/Google way. Unfortunately, it's a "Dell/Walmart model" hypercommodity where such a business has to maintain massive customer subscriptions to stay cash positive and still just trickles in $. It's an inter…

> I would probably optimize for the other extreme of "Apple model" premium/full-service expensive hosting that has fantastic uptime, gear and sales/support for enterprise/startup and IT/web operations... There's some more money in that and less headaches. (The most money seems to be in the upper-middle pricepoint area.)

A few weeks ago, I'd say "You mean AWS", but after this morning, and a few other incidents over the last few weeks, I don't think anyone can do fantastic uptime in a virtualized/cloud environment.

There's the rub, isn't it? Companies want to compete on quality, but if you're supposed to architect your application(s) for failure, uptime becomes a lot less important. You then only have price to compete on.

I know Twilio runs in both AWS and Rackspace, depending on various KPIs for shifting load. Seems to be the way the world is headed. I'm curious if containerization like Docker predicts CDNs running your containers for you at the edge...

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by susi22 » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 5:30 PM UTC

killercup wrote: post #5

(The title currently just says '2,99 per month'. This should probably be changed "2.99€" instead, since a lot of people would expect HN to default to USD. Even I (living in Germany) was surprised it was in Euro.)

I didn't check if they do, but they should not charge VAT for customers located in the USA. Which means that the price will actually end up being $2.80 (as of right now 2.99/1.2 EUR to USD).

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by bluejellybean » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 5:39 PM UTC

JoshTriplett wrote: post #6

bluejellybean wrote: post #3

2015 and they do not accept Discover cards.

2015 and people still use Discover cards. Why? I can think of several good reasons to use American Express, despite it being somewhat less widely accepted. But Discover doesn't seem to have any obvious value over a MasterCard or Visa.

Discover support has been top notch in my experience and after having a number of issues with other credit card providers they've been my goto for a number of years now.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by germanier » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 5:44 PM UTC

susi22 wrote: post #22

killercup wrote: post #5

(The title currently just says '2,99 per month'. This should probably be changed "2.99€" instead, since a lot of people would expect HN to default to USD. Even I (living in Germany) was surprised it was in Euro.)

I didn't check if they do, but they should not charge VAT for customers located in the USA. Which means that the price will actually end up being $2.80 (as of right now 2.99/1.2 EUR to USD).

The displayed price already is without VAT.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by bluejellybean » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 5:45 PM UTC

Nyr wrote: post #15

bluejellybean wrote: post #3

2015 and they do not accept Discover cards.

Because they are an European company and Discover is just an American thing.

Discover has pretty great international support[1]. Fair enough if they can't though.

[1]https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/help-center/account/in...

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by taneliv » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 5:45 PM UTC

ay wrote: post #16

I don't see how big of an IPv6 prefix do they allocate per server...

From https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/ : "Do you offer IPv6?

Not yet, this is in our mid term roadmap. We developed our own routers and switches to get as many features as possible. Some work is still needed to integrate IPv6 with all security features."

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by ketralnis » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 5:55 PM UTC

sz4kerto wrote: post #17

"Today, we are announcing a huge price cut for Scaleway compute services. We believe that cloud computing is an amazing technology and that everybody should be able to benefit from its advantages. That's why we decided to reduce the price of the C1 to €2.99 per month or €0.006 per hour, effectively reducing the price by 70% compared to the previous price (€9.99 per month)." Why must you say that? This is definitely u…

What is untrue about it?

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by jazzyk » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 6:06 PM UTC

JoshTriplett wrote: post #6

bluejellybean wrote: post #3

2015 and they do not accept Discover cards.

2015 and people still use Discover cards. Why? I can think of several good reasons to use American Express, despite it being somewhat less widely accepted. But Discover doesn't seem to have any obvious value over a MasterCard or Visa.

Their value is providing competition to Mastercard/Visa. Without Discover, the duopoly would charge even higher transaction costs, etc.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by _delirium » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 6:20 PM UTC

bluejellybean wrote: post #25

Nyr wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they are an European company and Discover is just an American thing.

Discover has pretty great international support[1]. Fair enough if they can't though. [1] https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/help-center/account/in...

Afaik they're mostly accepted in Europe via their partnership with the payment processing network of Diner's Club (vs. directly seeing a "Discover" sign). Diner's Club is moderately widespread but only in certain market segments, like restaurants and higher-end stores. Not many European ecommerce shops will take Discover or Diner's Club, not even big ones like Amazon [1].

[1] http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId... or http://www.amazon.de/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=50...

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Post by jo909 » Wed, Sep 02, 2015, 6:21 PM UTC

For every comparison we should take into account that scaleway offers dedicated hardware, not a VPS.

Also I think its important to note that they (currently) only offer one very "small" server model, so your whole application would have to be able to scale horizontally really well to be able to run on such infrastructure. So you can't have a few big database servers and a lot of small stateless application servers, which I belive is a very typical architecture today.