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This Is Not America: Why Wal-Mart Left Germany (2006)

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Re: This Is Not America: Why Wal-Mart Left Germany (2006)

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While I wouldn't completely discount cultural and business-environment differences, this is probably the most relevant part, > Another fatal flaw was that Germany's retail market is already saturated with discounters such as Aldi and Lidl, meaning that any new arrival inevitably finds itself in the midst of a cutthroat price war. Walmart's model is to do high volume at low margins with a highly optimized supply chain…

"Not a lot of room" in this case is basically zero.

FYI to those unfamiliar with Aldi: their (grocery) stores are fairly small, run in a seriously minimalistic manner. Products are usually presented either on their shipping palettes, and/or still in volume cases - customer does some of the unpacking. Most products are "made for Aldi" or otherwise sourced from bottom-price manufacturers. Variety is nearly nonexistent. Typically (at least in every store I've seen in USA) there are only two employees at any time - one acting clerk, other stocking/cleaning. Credit cards are not accepted; before debit cards, it was cash only. Aldi seemed the last store to use barcode scanners, clerks having literally memorized the codes for every product in the store and could process checkout nearly as fast (sometimes faster) than barcode scanning. Stores are very clean & simple.

You'd be hard-pressed to beat that cost-cutting business model.

Re: This Is Not America: Why Wal-Mart Left Germany (2006)

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post #9

While I wouldn't completely discount cultural and business-environment differences, this is probably the most relevant part, > Another fatal flaw was that Germany's retail market is already saturated with discounters such as Aldi and Lidl, meaning that any new arrival inevitably finds itself in the midst of a cutthroat price war. Walmart's model is to do high volume at low margins with a highly optimized supply chain…

I like the Aldi I used to go to in Kansas while working there. Cheap, clean and no one bothers you. It actually was a better experience than Walmart, even for this American. They had cool, better carts too!

Unfortunately Aldi in the States doesn't do as well as Aldi in Germany.

Re: This Is Not America: Why Wal-Mart Left Germany (2006)

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While I wouldn't completely discount cultural and business-environment differences, this is probably the most relevant part, > Another fatal flaw was that Germany's retail market is already saturated with discounters such as Aldi and Lidl, meaning that any new arrival inevitably finds itself in the midst of a cutthroat price war. Walmart's model is to do high volume at low margins with a highly optimized supply chain…

In addition, an important part of Aldi's recent success in Germany is that they do not compromise on quality. Often their products (say olive oil, toilet paper,...) win/score at the top of consumer reports. They have a great brand image (much better than Lidl).

Re: This Is Not America: Why Wal-Mart Left Germany (2006)

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post #26

While I wouldn't completely discount cultural and business-environment differences, this is probably the most relevant part, > Another fatal flaw was that Germany's retail market is already saturated with discounters such as Aldi and Lidl, meaning that any new arrival inevitably finds itself in the midst of a cutthroat price war. Walmart's model is to do high volume at low margins with a highly optimized supply chain…

In addition, an important part of Aldi's recent success in Germany is that they do not compromise on quality. Often their products (say olive oil, toilet paper,...) win/score at the top of consumer reports. They have a great brand image (much better than Lidl).

That depends on which part of Germany you're in. There are two Aldi chains in Germany, run by brothers. South Aldis are great. North Aldis are understocked, dirty and generally don't provide a great experience.

Re: This Is Not America: Why Wal-Mart Left Germany (2006)

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the Aldi I used to go to in Kansas while working there. Cheap, clean and no one bothers you. It actually was a better experience than Walmart, even for this American. They had cool, better carts too!

Unfortunately Aldi in the States doesn't do as well as Aldi in Germany.

ALDI (Süd) is adding 600 stores and 10,000 jobs in North America by 2018, a 50% expansion. They're doing quite well.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-aldi-expansion-hir...

ALDI Nord owns Trader Joe's in the USA, and that chain is doing great business as well.

Re: This Is Not America: Why Wal-Mart Left Germany (2006)

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While I wouldn't completely discount cultural and business-environment differences, this is probably the most relevant part, > Another fatal flaw was that Germany's retail market is already saturated with discounters such as Aldi and Lidl, meaning that any new arrival inevitably finds itself in the midst of a cutthroat price war. Walmart's model is to do high volume at low margins with a highly optimized supply chain…

"Not a lot of room" in this case is basically zero. FYI to those unfamiliar with Aldi: their (grocery) stores are fairly small, run in a seriously minimalistic manner. Products are usually presented either on their shipping palettes, and/or still in volume cases - customer does some of the unpacking. Most products are "made for Aldi" or otherwise sourced from bottom-price manufacturers. Variety is nearly nonexistent.…

Don't forget $0.25 deposit for shopping cart and bags are extra.

Re: This Is Not America: Why Wal-Mart Left Germany (2006)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Not a lot of room" in this case is basically zero. FYI to those unfamiliar with Aldi: their (grocery) stores are fairly small, run in a seriously minimalistic manner. Products are usually presented either on their shipping palettes, and/or still in volume cases - customer does some of the unpacking. Most products are "made for Aldi" or otherwise sourced from bottom-price manufacturers. Variety is nearly nonexistent.…

Don't forget $0.25 deposit for shopping cart and bags are extra.

Which keep the stores and parking lots remarkably clean. That simple deposit keeps all the carts up front and organized. Lack of free bags inspires people to take the packing boxes with them.
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