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Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else. You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.

As linked elsewhere in this thread, its plenty achievable to have bare metal at 16e/mo or less even, between Online.net and Kimsufi.

Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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post #19

Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else. You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.

For what application is bare metal server rental particularly useful? (as opposed to either own colo or low end VPS)

Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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post #19

Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else. You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.

As linked elsewhere in this thread, its plenty achievable to have bare metal at 16e/mo or less even, between Online.net and Kimsufi.

Alright, thanks that's exactly what I wanted to know. Why don't the U.S. have good dedicated server offerings? Hetzner, Online, Kimsufi, they're all in Europe for some reason. Across the pond I've only found really expensive managed hosting solutions and VPS.

Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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post #8

What exactly is stopping ARM boards to have high IO? Just allow people to use a normal 2.5" SSD or even m2 and you have a really nice machine! For example, the latest Raspberry Pi 2 has a quad-core CPU which is faster than my 1st machine (and maybe even my 2nd and 3rd) but is severly handicaped by the IO speed which is limited to USB (plus, all the USB ports and Ethernet using the same controller for extra slowness).…

I have a SATA SSD on my Cubietruck and it has gigabit Ethernet.

The Allwinner A80 seems a step backwards to me as they don't seem to have included SATA, though you would be able to address 8GB of DRAM.

Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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post #19

Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else. You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.

Here you are. http://www.kimsufi.com/

Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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post #22
post #19

Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else. You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.

For what application is bare metal server rental particularly useful? (as opposed to either own colo or low end VPS)

Performance is much better compared to VMs. Lower overheads, no emulated devices, and memory and storage controllers are not shared with other VMs. If you don't need "elastic" scaling, i.e. you have a relatively constant (base) workload, bare-metal dedicated servers should have a much higher performance/price ratio.

Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think by "interesting" you meant to write "terrible". I'm wondering who on earth is the market for this? 32 bit ARM (even A15) is not a great server platform. If it had been 64 bit ARM with a real amount of RAM and an SSD then it might be more interesting. Even there (and I say this as someone who has an APM Mustang under my desk), it's more likely of benefit to people hosting web servers at scale than for VPS.

> I'm wondering who on earth is the market for this? People whose web pages generate a lot of traffic (10TB allowed) with low CPU usage, i.e. static pages and similar.

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Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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post #8

What exactly is stopping ARM boards to have high IO? Just allow people to use a normal 2.5" SSD or even m2 and you have a really nice machine! For example, the latest Raspberry Pi 2 has a quad-core CPU which is faster than my 1st machine (and maybe even my 2nd and 3rd) but is severly handicaped by the IO speed which is limited to USB (plus, all the USB ports and Ethernet using the same controller for extra slowness).…

Because they're usually based on mobile phone or similar SoCs. However, at least 4 companies are promising to deliver Server-class chips this year - Cavium, Avago (ex Broadcom), Qualcomm, and AMD.

(Edited to add) Incidentally, most of the above are designed to have more than 8 cores. Cavium's ThunderX has 48, for example. Both Cavium and Broadcom previously delivered many-core MIPs designes, so this isn't vaporware either.

Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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post #22
post #19

Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else. You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.

For what application is bare metal server rental particularly useful? (as opposed to either own colo or low end VPS)

There's security, basically there's two vectors a Hetzner compromise can be used against us, either they reboot a machine and get our data through rescue mode, or they gain physical access. VPS'es can be hacked fully digitally and transparently (i.e. if you have access to the hypervisor you're in).

There's performance concerns as well, but those don't really apply for ARM as obviously you can do better.

Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers

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post #19

Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else. You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.

There's a ton of them... Even on hetzner itself.
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