Code Rush – The Beginnings of Netscape / Mozilla (2000) [video]

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 4:46 AM UTC

anon3_ wrote: post #14

cryptoz wrote: post #8

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> FF users have almost halved over the last 2 years, That's not what your linked chart shows. First, the chart is a % market share, not raw user counts. Second, ~18% down to ~13% isn't really "almost half" anyway.

Yeah but significant still. 27.7% of their pie disappeared. Recent versions of Firefox have introduced third party plugins (like pocket). After the Eich thing, they lost the "hacker" cred and their talent was pretty easy much poached. Further, the concept of merit - overlooking the political in lieu of skill / talent - is no longer a core value of the organization. [1] Recruiters were all over linkedin and taking awa…

Post by angersock » Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 5:32 AM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #15

anon3_ wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but significant still. 27.7% of their pie disappeared. Recent versions of Firefox have introduced third party plugins (like pocket). After the Eich thing, they lost the "hacker" cred and their talent was pretty easy much poached. Further, the concept of merit - overlooking the political in lieu of skill / talent - is no longer a core value of the organization. [1] Recruiters were all over linkedin and taking awa…

That explains it. The reason you think Mozilla is shifting from technology into politics is that you've been reading ESR's lunatic ravings.

Post by osullivj » Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 7:50 AM UTC

ianremsen wrote: post #17

hayksaakian wrote: post #16

This is really good. Thank you for sharing. As a younger person, this is a piece of history that was never taught.

I absolutely agree. When I watched this for the first time ~6 months ago it was crazy how much of this relatable oh-so-familiar stuff was taking place before I existed, the central date of March 31, 1998 being about 3 months before I was born. Programmers these days stand on the shoulders of giants, most of them still living and breathing. And it is a priceless gift that it is so much easier to learn this craft when…

Post by pjc50 » Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 8:45 AM UTC

nchelluri wrote: post #19

That was really cool. Thanks for posting. I think like a lot of you I probably can't watch a documentary without feeling "omg that guy was biased!" but I felt like they were pretty even-handed here. - long hours - stock options are a lottery, a stupid tax - "and I won the lottery" - the countdown timer at the open-source launch, the last minute typo of domain name, the person who observed it and directed the fix - th…

Post by nailer » Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 9:21 AM UTC

chrissnell wrote: post #18

Wow. I remember watching this fifteen years ago and seeing that young kid (Stuart Parmenter) join Netscape right out of high school and thinking, "Don't do it!". I, too, joined the industry early and by 2000, I'd pissed away the first half of my twenties pulling all-nighters working at tech startups while the rest of my friends were partying at college or backpacking around Europe. Recently, I'd read something about…