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Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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An article critical of reddit? Let's see how fast this is taken out of HN frontpage. Edit: Same as top post (NYSE) 1h and same votes, and it's at 9th position... Bring me your downvotes. Truth hurts?

These threads are pretty toxic, so it's not surprising they get flagged.

Also, your comment got downvotes for baiting.

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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> it reminds me of Reagan firing every air traffic controller who went on strike Unionized laborers collectively bargaining for more money from the company they work for is almost the exact opposite of unpaid volunteers maintaining the profit making infrastructure of a for profit corporation.

you clipped the second half of the sentence ... "people who thought they were above being replaced"

Sure, I wasn't trying to be disingenuous. The difference I was illustrating was that asking for respect and communication is different than money and benefits.

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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post #147

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> it reminds me of Reagan firing every air traffic controller who went on strike Unionized laborers collectively bargaining for more money from the company they work for is almost the exact opposite of unpaid volunteers maintaining the profit making infrastructure of a for profit corporation.

you clipped the second half of the sentence ... "people who thought they were above being replaced"

They are certainly replaceable, but they just as certainly not fungible.

Reddit management clearly made a mistake here, not because it annoyed some moderators, but because they showed poor understanding of a fundamental part of their business (i.e. this is a lot of avoidable bad press, if nothing else)

They seem to have realized this, and are working on amending process. Nothing wrong with that, this is how things can improve.

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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"Reddit management and that it's just a bunch of angry children complaining without cause." Anyone that makes these sort of decisions based on absolutely no evidence besides that she was fired, is childish and should not be a moderator. "The mods in question are adults and professionals, and they've clearly and succinctly explained their grievances with Reddit management." They might be physically adults, but emotion…

This actually reminds me of when Unidan was shadowbanned. Unidan was a super-popular redditor who loved educating people about science, and he would pop up everywhere and deliver useful information written in a way most laymen can understand. People loved him. He got banned right after getting in an argument with somebody, where he was being really aggressive and heavy-handed. A lot of people flipped out and claimed…

And at a minimum, it'd mean that reddit is poor at handling communication. Most likely that they aren't paying attention past, just stepping into things now and then. Who the hell bans Unidan just like that? You couldn't put some checks into your bot?

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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"We feel strongly that this incident is more part of a reckless disregard for the company’s own business and for the work the moderators and users put into the site. Dismissing Victoria Taylor was part of a long pattern of insisting the community and the moderators do more with less." I think this really gets to the heart of it. The moderators of the site only learned of the termination after a celebrity flew out to…

This article is falling on me as tone deaf. Most people who frequent the site dont care at all about the plight of the moderators. Moderators are not elected, they arent forcefully drafted, they dont step down when the community dislikes them. They are landowners who got there first, followed by a lot of cronyism/nepotism. It's an old boys club. They do a lot of hard work for the site, but they would be easily replac…

> Moderators are largely faceless human spam filters. It is a task that could be crowdsourced better so more people are doing less work.

Like an upvote/downvote system.

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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Some people have been on that site for 10 years.

That's fine, but it's effectively a giant forum with volunteer moderators. I feel like it can best be described as the social equivalent of trying to steer a boat that's really 30,000 small boats all tied together. They have volunteers with the ability to simply turn off huge traffic parts of their site? How is this a for-profit company?

I'm guessing they will take that power back from the community, under "responsibilities for default subreddits".

But if they would update their site (vs relying on 3rd parties) and update stuff and actually talk to these volunteers, they wouldn't be in this position. It's pretty impressive how they've managed to give an appearance of not caring.

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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How hard would it be to fork reddit AMA on a third party site? I'd imagine if you got Victoria on board, a lot of the mods/community would follow. Certainly some custom support for the AMA would be nice, like getting cleanly summarized final outputs and highlighting direct conversation with the askee, and making it easy to find highly upvoted non-answered questions.

> I'd imagine if you got Victoria on board

Very doubtful she'd work for free, so that rules out owners that can't afford at least a full-time salary.

Find someone willing to risk ~$50-100K just on the IAmA coordinator alone (who may not be able to attract celebrity talent to an unknown site), on the hope their site displaces Reddit (a very slim chance), and that they'll somehow then magically make it all profitable without chasing everyone off, and it's doable.

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I laugh when people complain about removal of /r/fatpeoplehate being censorship. The only reason that subreddit was such a problem is because of aggressive moderation and banning of users - i.e. censorship at the moderator level rather than the admin level.

It's a cognitive bias. The assertion from the admins was pretty clear regarding the harassment of individuals and threats of violence, but rather than acknowledge their prejudice, some have tried to make it into a first amendment issue. On a privately owned website.

Part of the problem was that there was no transparency and almost anything can count as "harassment" - for example, I've seen journalists accuse people of harassment because they've searched their name on Twitter and found people mocking some of their more ill thought-out articles. If you actually dug into the details it was obvious why the admins banned /r/fatpeoplehate, but few did and those details didn't make the news either.

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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Actually it was a reaction by the Reddit community to management idiocy. As such, it was entirely justified. You don't seem to understand how this works. Reddit does not own the community. Reddit hosts the community, and in return the community provides content for Reddit. The community has already moved from another provider, and if Reddit carries on with more management idiocy, it will move again. Social is littere…

You are defining the community as people who interact with the site (or maybe content creators). I am defining it as people who visit the site. The old 90-10-1 rule suggests the community how you define it is only a small subset of the community how I defined it. If someone doesn't care enough to even create an account on Reddit, what makes you think they have strong feeling about the personnel decisions of the compa…

so everyone who visits the Daily Mail website is part of the community?

Re: Why We Shut Down Reddit’s ‘Ask Me Anything’ Forum

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OK, $FamousPerson shows up at reception asking for an employee who has recently been escorted off the premises with their possessions in a black plastic bag (been there, got the video and t-shirt). You sort of know that random $FamousPeople showing up is part of $BusinessAsUsual. You have just realised that you have apparently no procedures whatsoever for booking appointments for personal visits to the building (e.g.…

OT, but is there somewhere I can read your story of having been told to to F$$k off by Royalty?

No.

This will give you an idea...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-philip-quotes-re...

Edit: apologies for duplicate. Could not see the original reply

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