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Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Post by dblohm7 »

hosay123 wrote: post #133
hrjet wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that logic, why not bundle all the popular addons with Firefox? Why only a chosen few?

Because they're looking for new revenue streams outside of the Google agreement, which stops paying out quite soon. It's a pretty slippery slope, but I don't mind the tradeoff they're making in this case. Certainly beats them taking Adobe money (or cash equivalents) to bundle Flash, which is exactly what Chrome does (faster security updates blah blah yes I know, but a better extension update mechanism could work just…

> Because they're looking for new revenue streams outside of the Google agreement, which stops paying out quite soon.

The Google agreement is already gone. Mozilla partnered with Yahoo in the US starting in December 2014.

And again, Mozilla is not taking money in return for this integration.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Post by gcb0 »

Spittie wrote: post #161
gcb0 wrote: post #106

why stop there? - telefonica service for voice chat. - google scam site checker, phone-home component for every site you visit - google services (the things responsible for ads no less) just so you can stream videos on android (can't even build firefox without including that SDK) - adobe binary blob for DRM on netflix. (who even uses netflix on the browser?)

>- google scam site checker, phone-home component for every site you visit I don't really like it either, but that's not how it works. Firefox downloads an updated list of "non-safe" sites from Google every 30 minutes or so, and check sites against the local copy. A site get sent to Google only if there is a match in the local copy, to check that it's still "blacklisted" https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-does-…

OK so they advertise some sites you visit to Google, not all as i said.

removing Google services: fdroid goes to great pains to do that. i was actually doing that myself before. have you ever tried? it's hours and hours wasted changing code and scripts that were originally made optional but for some reason they drippe dropped the checks (I'm still to have enough time to track the commits that did this)

drm:agree with you there, no excuse not to be a download.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Post by squids »

Puts wrote: post #26
MisterWebz wrote: post #5

It is so unlike Mozilla to introduce something like that, I ran a virus scan and checked what programs had been installed recently -- I assumed it had been put there in the same way that IE users used to get the Ask Toolbar installed. Exactly how I felt. What the hell were they thinking? I'm generally very supportive of Mozilla, I even supported their initiative to put advertisements on Firefox's start page. But bund…

You really start to wonder what pot they are smoking over there at Mozilla. Standard things you would expect from a browser, like a way to easily disabling javascript are apparently left to third-party extensions, because oh you don't want to bloat the browser. But hey, video conferencing on the other hand is such an essential part of the browsing experience.

Disabling javascript is fairly easy on a page by page basis, right click on the page, inspect element to bring up the console, click on the settings cog, scroll down, disable javascript tickbox.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Post by totony »

Frondo wrote: post #150
userbinator wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Treat users like ignorant entitled idiots, and they'll just continue to act like ignorant entitled idiots. Meanwhile everyone else who does know what those settings are for suffers, and it decreases the chances of future users ever learning they could do that. If users aren't putting in the effort to read warnings/error messages, or can't put two and two together and correlate why things aren't working on some sites…

Virtually no one outside the tech world thinks twice about javascript. They have other things to think about. They're still users of the product, and they will never start tweaking it, because their lives are already full of other things .

And thus they should not tweak things they don't understand.

If you don't know what javascript is, don't disable it and complain things aren't working...

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Post by nosmo-king »

Artemis2 wrote: post #168
pdkl95 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why not make it an official extension? It says a lot about Mozilla when they decide to bundle fad features like these after spending years stripping existing features[1] out of Firefox. During their effort to dumb-down[2] Firefox, it was common to hear that removing those features didn't matter, as they should be provided by extensions instead. Apparently that cheap excuse is ignored when the feature when it is con…

http://xkcd.com/1172/

i had memorized the index of my 65535 bookmarks, now have to scroll by +1 which forces me to a 17-bit mental pointer. who thought 17-bits was ok?
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