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Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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I'm a Mac user so I don't care too much. However, a lot of how Windows 10 will be perceived is from the online perception created. Most people in the world don't care about the little bugs, features, etc. They simply want to know if it's worth getting. If Windows 10 is reasonably good and tons of people upgrade from XP, for example, this will be a huge win for Microsoft and the entire community. If "reviewers" compla…

I just want to know when the next version of the Surface Pro is coming out!! Other than that, I hope that one day Microsoft will do something to allow Unix folks to be more comfortable on Windows because I honestly don't like anything about OS X and I'm looking forward to a time when Unix lovers will flock to some other brand of hardware and OS. Anything but Apple.

I don't care much about the next Microsoft OS which is coming out. I am irritable that the new Pro is not out yet.

If someone had told me 2 years ago that I wouldn't give a damn about MSFT software and would care about MSFT H/W i would have wondered what they were smoking.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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As someone who is still on XP after having tried all the newer Windows versions (and forced to use some), I don't think it's worth relearning everything and finding out that a lot of the functionality that you used to rely on is now either completely missing or terribly dumbed-down. All the little irritations add up. We've probably long passed the point of "sufficient for the average user" in terms of OS features, as…

Windows XP is technology from 2001. A lot has changed in the last 14 years.

...and a lot also hasn't.

What has changed, has not all been for the better.

http://boingboing.net/2012/08/23/civilwar.html

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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I have been running the technical previews since the very start and I have to say I am quite surprised at the July 29th release date. Even today's builds are riddled with problems. They have a lot of work to do if they really think it will be consumer ready by the end of July.

I'm a Mac user so I don't care too much. However, a lot of how Windows 10 will be perceived is from the online perception created. Most people in the world don't care about the little bugs, features, etc. They simply want to know if it's worth getting. If Windows 10 is reasonably good and tons of people upgrade from XP, for example, this will be a huge win for Microsoft and the entire community. If "reviewers" compla…

Well, you should. I am a Mac user too, but Mac OS is getting worse and worse... I am NOT going to switch to Windows 10 for now, but I am thinking about it more and more.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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>> What's wrong with Steam on Ubuntu? That you can't run the big titles that only run on Windows?

That's not a Steam issue, Steam runs fine. It's that some games aren't available on Linux.

You're right, I meant Steam games where I wrote Steam. Even though I've had a ton of fun with Legend of Grimrock, I wish for a lot of the bigger titles came over. It's much better from 4 years ago, but I still can't play Shogun 2

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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You can easily turn it off in Settings -> Security & Privacy -> Search tab -> Include online search results

Which build is that? I don't see it in build 10074. It existed in the pre-Cortana build from last fall, but as far as I can tell, it was completely removed when Cortana was added. Perhaps it was re-added? Or I'm looking in the wrong spot?

Sorry if I mislead you, but my comment was about Unity on Ubuntu

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Looks like you and I hit a nerve here on HN. You are right though. Microsoft will be shipping Windows 10 with an incomplete version of their new Edge browser with the promise of adding critical features such as extensions in the future. Basically Windows 10 won't really be feature complete RTM for another 6 months. Even if Microsoft want to pretend it is ready now. Edit: To clarify the "hit a nerve" bit, when I wrote…

This is their chosen strategy though, that as of Windows 10 there will no longer be full major Windows versions. Instead it will be an ongoing rolling release of incremental changes. From a developer perspective, this sounds like a support nightmare given the number of potential configurations that could end up out there with no clear way of identifying them.

Instead it will be an ongoing rolling release of incremental changes.

I genuinely don't understand this move by Microsoft. Of all the things you want to be stable and reliable over time, your basic OS and platform software has to be at the top of the list.

While dumping any responsibility to support software older than the latest release has obvious appeal for developers, evergreen software has mostly proven to be mediocre-to-disastrous from the user's point of view so far. For business users, it's also painful from an internal support point of view, for much the same reasons. And as you mentioned, for an OS or other platform software, anyone developing other software that runs on top of it also faces problems.

About the only thing this kind of constantly updating deployment model has been good for is getting security and stability patches out faster. This is beneficial, but that benefit is tempered by the "just ship junk and patch it later" philosophy that has become widespread at the same time. Many of those patches simply shouldn't ever have been necessary in the first place, but new releases are now routinely of such poor quality that many people just don't bother, and advice to wait until SP1 or the equivalent is common.

If I were Microsoft, I think I'd want my new flagship OS to be the stable, reliable, trustworthy antidote to Apple's broken-within-a-week operating systems[1], not something with the same reputation for constantly tweaking things as Chrome/Firefox, on-line SaaS apps, and the like.

[1] For legal reasons, I would like to point out that not all Apple operating systems break within a week. In fact, the fastest I have seen a mainstream Apple device break in practice was approximately an hour after purchase, when iOS updated on a mobile device almost immediately, leaving the device so much worse than what the purchaser had previously tried out and thought they were buying that they took it straight back to the shop and demanded a full refund.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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You're getting downvoted a lot, but you're not wrong. Game companies, like Ubisoft, have been getting a lot of heat in particular for this lately...

I stopped buying games by EA and Ubisoft about 5 years ago for this very reason - shipping incomplete & buggy software with the mentality "we'll patch it later". In EA's case, those patches didn't even materialize a lot of the time. I take it from your comment that they're still up to their old tricks... I'll continue my boycott of EA and Ubi

I used to love gaming on my PC, and today I have far more disposable income I'd be willing to spend for top quality games. Sadly, I haven't actually bought (or pirated) a AAA title on PC for probably a decade now. The last few I had were great fun until they crashed or otherwise fundamentally failed at just the wrong moment, at which point all that enjoyment would instantly evaporate and just leave me in a bad mood instead. And every AAA game I'd bought in the last year or two before I gave up was like that. Throw in almost ubiquitous DRM/anti-cheating software doing unknown and potentially very bad things to my PC behind my back these days, and I'm very sad to say that PC gaming just isn't attractive to me any more.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Should I just buy a Windows 7 license to get a free upgrade to Windows 10?

Just install the technical preview and you will be able to upgrade for free. Source http://m.windowscentral.com/windows-insiders-will-be-able-up...

Great news, thanks! I apparently signed up for the Windows Insider program a few months ago. :)

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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> They've announced that Windows 10 will be free to all Technical Preview participants Got a source on this?

http://m.windowscentral.com/windows-insiders-will-be-able-up...

That just implies that we'll be able to install it, not keep it for free. My current evaluation copy claims it expires in October.
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