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Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by krrrh »

danford wrote: post #169
catshirt wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

please explain how this is any sort of relevant to my argument. i never compared Apple to anyone. i never suggested it would be in character for Apple to vocally disparage their old products. i never put a limit on "old" nor did I ever suggest the original author was correct (or incorrect). lot of people hearing what they want to around here. feel free to downvote without explanation- that seems to be the trend in Ap…

Don't know why you're getting down voted either. My old ipod touch is basically a brick. The battery doesn't last more than an hour, I can't update the OS anymore, 90% of apps aren't for my older version of iOS, and it lags on every input. I wish I could just install whatever version of iOS it originally came with and use it as an mp3 player. Don't know why iTunes let me update to a version of iOS that my hardware ca…

You might find Whited00r useful for older iOS devices. For me it made an old 3GS into a snappy prepaid loaner phone for guests visiting from out of country.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by pinkyand »

flatline wrote: post #175
DCKing wrote: post #170

The whole premise of this article is so wrong. If Jobs were alive we wouldn't have had this presentation in the first place. First up, under Jobs phablet iPhones would have been out of the question. He would have flat out rejected those, because he was simply wrong about some of the assumptions of phone design and would be a lot slower to admit that than Apple did without him. Second, the Apple Watch would not have b…

I still think the "why" of the watch was missing from the presentation, and a lot of his points were spot on. My wife called me all excited about it and I kept asking her what it did and she didn't have a clue. But I'm not sure it matters. My takeaway from reading your post was "Google released a watch? Oh...who cares." So I think you're right, Apple is still doing more right than wrong. I just don't think of Google…

> There's still nobody around who can do a product release like Apple.

But they might just reusing old fame. another one or two non-revolutionary product releases and , and their launches might become like everyone else's.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by mkhaytman »

GuiA wrote: post #18

Hacker News: your premier source for Steve Jobs fan fiction. (laughs) Does the author really think that Steve Jobs would have ever said "When I open up a website on Safari, I don't have to strain my eyes anymore"? They're still selling 5S and 5C! Not even Asus would disparage their previous products like that. The rest of the piece is just as bad and devoid of substance. (Steve rolls in his grave)

Seriously, this was a cringe-worthy read.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by nilkn »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #122
ThePhysicist wrote: post #119

"What we want from Apple isn't new technology. We want human warmth — a possibility of living a more fulfilled, meaningful life." I think this sums up nicely what's wrong here: The belief that technology will make your life more fulfilled or meaningful. I didn't watch the live keynote (I don't have the required Apple gear) but saw excerpts on Youtube, and frankly, I find the level of religiousness surrounding this ev…

>> "Take the metro / subway in any big, affluent city these days, and look around youself. What do you see? People whose eyes are glued to their phone screens, oblivious to the people around them, looking for "human warmth" in their virtual companion. That's really not the society I want to live in." I agree with a lot of what you said but this isn't correct. True we all have out faces buried in our devices but befor…

I feel like when people write this they completely forget what life was like in college.

It's true that ever since the newspaper we've had trouble interacting with each other in certain contexts. Why does that difficulty seem to dramatically increase post-college?

Sure, when I was in college tons of people including myself used their phone in public. But there was a corresponding amount of more or less random and constant public interaction.

To me, this suggests that the problem has little to do with phones or newspapers or watches and everything to do with the design of a city. College campuses are human-scale; modern cities are not. College students are encouraged to room together and give up materialistic wealth; college graduates and working professionals are encouraged to spend as much of their net worth as they can on procuring their own private abode. College students can walk mostly anywhere they need to go; working professionals usually drive in armored vehicles for a significant portion of the day and often find that virtually nothing useful is in walking distance of their residence except other residences that they aren't allowed to approach without good reason.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by catshirt »

danford wrote: post #169
catshirt wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

please explain how this is any sort of relevant to my argument. i never compared Apple to anyone. i never suggested it would be in character for Apple to vocally disparage their old products. i never put a limit on "old" nor did I ever suggest the original author was correct (or incorrect). lot of people hearing what they want to around here. feel free to downvote without explanation- that seems to be the trend in Ap…

Don't know why you're getting down voted either. My old ipod touch is basically a brick. The battery doesn't last more than an hour, I can't update the OS anymore, 90% of apps aren't for my older version of iOS, and it lags on every input. I wish I could just install whatever version of iOS it originally came with and use it as an mp3 player. Don't know why iTunes let me update to a version of iOS that my hardware ca…

i was scared to even breach this topic but I agree here too.

the tone in my original post would have been very different if I could install an old version of iOS on my iPhone. strange you can't, no?

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by ZenoArrow »

tolmasky wrote: post #67
ZenoArrow wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Our lives our filled with enough real decisions without the need for inane and subtle product ones." Considering the length of time we spend with our gadgets it pays to spend a bit of time in those 'inane' decisions. However, if you're a light user and just want something that works you can always choose based on price. It's really not that hard. "With the iPhone I'm now forced to regret the decision either way." Bu…

That's the point, that it does exist. I don't regret the other iPhone 5's because they actually don't exist. Since the iPhone 6+ actually does exist, developers will start programming custom superior landscape layouts for it that will serve to continually remind me I don't have it. Had the only difference been physical size, the decision would be easy like you describe, I'd be measuring on one variable that I know ho…

"I don't regret the other iPhone 5's because they actually don't exist." Except that they do exist (i.e. iPhone 5C). Perhaps you didn't face this dilemma with the 5S vs. 5C because it was clear which one was seen as the "best". It's the status symbol aspect.

Phablets are a niche market, if you have never wanted a phablet then the 6+ is not for you. The flagship model is the 6.

As for the features you'll be missing out on, do you have the same feelings about the superior features you can find on non-Apple phones? PureView from Nokia is far superior to Apple cameras, you can find Android phones with far better batteries, etc... Why is it only an issue with Apple? Again, I suspect, it's the status symbol aspect.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by ragerman »

Very nicely done! The problem is Steve Jobs is dead. NO ONE ELSE could have delivered that pitch. Anyone trying would have been reaching. Only Federighi could even try. Perhaps even Jobs would have had difficulty. You see Apple is a different company. There is a desperation around it now, being a behemoth that needs to run at full tilt to stay exactly where they are. Earlier they were a tiny David constantly taking on Goliath. It takes something special for that desperation not to show.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by krrrh »

mamoriamohit wrote: post #153

When Steve Jobs returned to Apple as CEO, he found a lot of variations of Mac getting developed. There was Mac for this, Mac for that, separate Mac for everything. He asked one question to the people developing, “If I had to buy one for my nephew, what would you recommend me?” He got several options. Then he asked, “If I had to buy one for my nephew, what would you suggest from the ones you just suggested?” He got mo…

I've seen a lot of people making this point about lack of focus wrt the watch, but I don't understand it. There is only one Apple watch, with no variation in storage or other internals. Like the iphone it comes in three finishes, in this case steel, aluminum, and gold.

The straps have zero functionality other than aesthetics, and the mechanism for easily swapping them is brilliant. Watches are jewelry. People who wear them usually own more than one and wear different ones based on the rest of their outfit. The Apple watch is more a more useful device if you wear it every day, and making multiple styles of watch bands makes it easier and more natural to do this. One watch for every occasion.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by Cowicide »

In my opinion, I think it was too early for Apple to release a watch.

They should have waited until there was more of a breakthrough in battery storage (to make it far slimmer) and also the ability to give it some little bit of extra power capacity through heat off of one's wrist along with an ability to grab solar energy combined off the watch face.

Also, it really, really needed to be able to work standalone without a tether to the iPhone, IMO.

This was just too soon. The battery technology isn't there quite yet. This didn't blow my mind in practicality and usability, it just looks like another vanity watch someone wears in a vapid attempt to impress others.

I'm underwhelmed.

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