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Gah, the tutorial keybindings! They are mad. I've been using emacs for a very long time, and I can't imagine using those to navigate. Emacs has perfectly reasonable default keybindings these days, they just aren't the ones mentioned in the tutorial. Command: move down one line What vi uses: j What the emacs tutorial suggests: C-n What I use in emacs: the down arrow
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It's the vim defenders who will claim that the home key navigation is a must. Emacs advocates don't much care from what I've seen. Some of them will be roused to suggest that you learn to use searching better.
Vim defenders will also tell you to use search. Also, why would even Emacs fans recommended corded combos over single keypresses? Give my pinky a break man!
In order of precedence: Standard vim movement -> EasyMotion -> Search.
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So how would you envision that the Emacs OS should be structured/used?
Something like this: sudo aptitude purge emacs sudo apt-get install vim gvim gvim Edit: Clearly I'm joking. If you wanted a serious answer, Emacs is just a large, easily extensible program. It's not really an OS. That's like saying Google Chrome (contains a package manager, web browser, text editor, scripting language, and much more) is an OS.
> I completely do not understand how anyone can use Emacs’ default keybindings. I completely do not understand how switching modes is a good idea in an editor. It just doesn't fit in my brain somehow. I start typing and randomly end up pasting and cutting. I want to paste and cut it randomly types my commands in insert mode. Emacs cords are pretty intuitive to me. I don't know many: just moving, saving, creating 2 wi…
Anyone who thinks Emacs isn't modal hasn't opened a buffer on a directory.
So no, emacs is not modal like Vim. But good try, good try...
Besides, why not use speedbar, that opens a nice directory browser and you can open files by clicking on them.
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Remap to tab? Insanity! I remap it to Caps Lock of course.
Ah, right, I forgot what the common remap was, thought I'd get that wrong, thanks for the correction.
I keep escape as escape as well. Capslock is absolutely worthless to me.
Gah, the tutorial keybindings! They are mad. I've been using emacs for a very long time, and I can't imagine using those to navigate. Emacs has perfectly reasonable default keybindings these days, they just aren't the ones mentioned in the tutorial. Command: move down one line What vi uses: j What the emacs tutorial suggests: C-n What I use in emacs: the down arrow
Yes it's hard to get started, but once you get the hang of it navigation in emacs just becomes so painless.
Also it's hard or even impossible at first to do it on laptops but trust me you will be able to do it.
Emacs+Evil is the next Vim. And yes, CtrlP is probably the thing you'll miss most. But all the other things I got from switching from Vim to Emacs+Evil easily outweigh the missing CtrlP. Vim was great, until I wanted to customize it heavily. It is simply not made to facilitate things like: child processes, SSH, understanding my code, a visual interface for Git.
I use tmux, so all the advanced functionality of the terminal is only a single keypress away (to switch to another open terminal split).
Gah, the tutorial keybindings! They are mad. I've been using emacs for a very long time, and I can't imagine using those to navigate. Emacs has perfectly reasonable default keybindings these days, they just aren't the ones mentioned in the tutorial. Command: move down one line What vi uses: j What the emacs tutorial suggests: C-n What I use in emacs: the down arrow
I usually rest my palm naturally on the control key when using emacs (yes I use my palm to press the control key), so ctrl-n becomes just n for e.g. Yes it's hard to get started, but once you get the hang of it navigation in emacs just becomes so painless. Also it's hard or even impossible at first to do it on laptops but trust me you will be able to do it.
that's the old-school Starcraft way. try mapping caps-lock to control sometime, just to see, it's such wasted real-estate. nothing beats muscle memory and years of practice though.
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But that means your fingers have leave home row! :(
What key do you press in Vim more often than any other? Esc! Not on the home row (although I'm sure you'll say you remap it to tab).
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> understanding my code Both Vim and Emacs have a horrible time trying to syntax highlight Perl, but I find Vim's flaws to be more tolerable. Emacs isn't some sort of panacea.
I have written a good amount of perl in both Vim and Emacs and can't recall noticing bad syntax highlighting in either. Do you have an example?
" @{[ blah() ]} "
In Vim:
my $variable = my $variable = function_call([edit: I tried to replicated this, and I'm not seeing the HEREDOC portion highlighted as a string, but I also notice that Perl 5.20 has removed Also in Vim:
"text @{[ callFunction(sub { }) ]} text"