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Count to ten when a plane goes down

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Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#191
I hope you fought that firing...

... incompetence like that comes from having F6 next to F7 and no checks or authorisation needed for a potentially dangerous action etc. Processes should be designed for people to make the common mistakes... its what they do.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#192

The author states they felt it was appropriate when they were fired. In what world would it be appropriate to get fired for a single, simple, incredibly easy to make mistake? Doubly insane when there were exactly zero safeguards in place to prevent the mistake from being made.

He publicly embarrassed USG, POTUS and a major US ally. SK is going to call up the state dept and demand an explanation. Someone has to be fired. This isn't some startup in California where everyone just plays it cool. The termination of his boss and his boss's boss and his boss's boss's boss all the way up were probably considered as well.

I think you will find they embarssed themselves.

Responsibility flows upwards, not downwards. Its just unfortunate that the people at the bottom are often carrying the people above far more than they should...

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#193

I hope you fought that firing... ... incompetence like that comes from having F6 next to F7 and no checks or authorisation needed for a potentially dangerous action etc. Processes should be designed for people to make the common mistakes... its what they do.

nm. just seen the follow up. :)

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, a lot of novice unix users are of the habit of removing files with -rf switch. I cringe everytime I see it. The command "rm -rf ~/blue/" is just a single space key from being equivalent to "rm -rf /" with "rm -rf ~/blue /"

What would be the "good" alternative ? I often tries "rmdir" or "rm -r" if the directory is not empty and very often there are some "protected files" so I add -f. Thus it happens that I directly lauch "rm -rf".

Watch it fail first, verify that the failure makes sense, check to see if there's a way to delete one file with -f before deleting the rest with -r. Use -rf only as a last resort, and only by appending the f to an already-failed command whose syntax you've validated.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, a lot of novice unix users are of the habit of removing files with -rf switch. I cringe everytime I see it. The command "rm -rf ~/blue/" is just a single space key from being equivalent to "rm -rf /" with "rm -rf ~/blue /"

> Not really, a lot of novice unix users are of the habit of removing files with -rf switch. I cringe everytime I see it. Every few days I remind myself of this.... then I have to delete another directory with a git repository in it, and end up add the -f in again

I run into this all the time, too. Now my -rf usage is almost always wrapped by this:

    rmgit()
    {
        git status
        read -p "Are you sure? " -n 1 -r
        echo
        if [[ $REPLY =~ ^[Yy]$ ]]
        then
            rm .git -rf
        fi
    }

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#197

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> you could generally assume someone who was doing so had been thoroughly trained No amount of training can prevent something like this. It's like today's browsers where the tab can be closed with ctrl+w and the whole window with ctrl+q. It doesn't matter how many times you've done it and how used are you to the position of the 'w'. One day you will close the whole window by accident.

IMO the fact that we have multiple examples of these kinds of accident-prone key pairs does partially exonerate whoever did this particular F6/F7 bit.

I can't count how many times I accidentally hit the Save Game button instead of the Load Game button in Half-Life. The keys were literally, like, right next to each other.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#198

I often suspect that most of the work involved in keeping a power hierarchy going, is involved with trying to pretend that this kind of shit doesn't happen all the time.

And then conspiracy theorists latch onto this kind of shit, but believe that it must be malicious silliness... Why didn't Reagan respond immediately? Well, he was waiting to hear from Chancellor Gorkon that the KAL flight had been successfully beamed aboard and was en route to Pluto, of course... Clearly they'd have their shit together better so it couldn't have been a 23-year old rebooting all the computers accident…

Conspiracy theorists are just 20th and 21st century prophets, really. They search for meaning in an all too often meaningless world.

It's comforting to think that people can control the direction of every choice in the world, and that someone is at the helm.

It's uncomfortable to think about the daily series of random, unconnected decisions that drive the direction of our species.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#199
>And let’s hope that there is no stupid 23-year-old with his finger on an important keyboard in this information chain.

No. This is something you would read in Design of Everyday Things where Don Norman would totally shame the the engineers who made that system. Software shouldn't be designed with the assumption that no one makes errors.

Re: Count to ten when a plane goes down

#200
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That button needs a safeguard even if it's not an international incident. Even if only one person would lose a few hours' work from an all-nighter, work for something that's not so important, it's still someone's work. And given that it's right next to a 'single terminal reset' key, it should be immediately obvious to anyone who's ever used a keyboard - mistakes can and do happen, even when you're fluent.

And yet, to this day, Firefox has both Ctrl-Q (close all Firefox windows without prompting) and its neighbor Ctrl-W (close current tab) and refuses to change that or provide remappable keyboard shortcuts. One of the biggest UI failures I'm aware of in 2014. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52821

This in combination with "Restore all tabs on startup" not being the default is a disaster.

The first thing I do on a new Firefox installation is enable "Restore all tabs on startup".

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