... incompetence like that comes from having F6 next to F7 and no checks or authorisation needed for a potentially dangerous action etc. Processes should be designed for people to make the common mistakes... its what they do.
Count to ten when a plane goes down
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#192The author states they felt it was appropriate when they were fired. In what world would it be appropriate to get fired for a single, simple, incredibly easy to make mistake? Doubly insane when there were exactly zero safeguards in place to prevent the mistake from being made.
He publicly embarrassed USG, POTUS and a major US ally. SK is going to call up the state dept and demand an explanation. Someone has to be fired. This isn't some startup in California where everyone just plays it cool. The termination of his boss and his boss's boss and his boss's boss's boss all the way up were probably considered as well.
Responsibility flows upwards, not downwards. Its just unfortunate that the people at the bottom are often carrying the people above far more than they should...
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#193I hope you fought that firing... ... incompetence like that comes from having F6 next to F7 and no checks or authorisation needed for a potentially dangerous action etc. Processes should be designed for people to make the common mistakes... its what they do.
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#194I thought the headline meant to count to ten when a plane goes down...while you are in it!
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really, a lot of novice unix users are of the habit of removing files with -rf switch. I cringe everytime I see it. The command "rm -rf ~/blue/" is just a single space key from being equivalent to "rm -rf /" with "rm -rf ~/blue /"
What would be the "good" alternative ? I often tries "rmdir" or "rm -r" if the directory is not empty and very often there are some "protected files" so I add -f. Thus it happens that I directly lauch "rm -rf".
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really, a lot of novice unix users are of the habit of removing files with -rf switch. I cringe everytime I see it. The command "rm -rf ~/blue/" is just a single space key from being equivalent to "rm -rf /" with "rm -rf ~/blue /"
> Not really, a lot of novice unix users are of the habit of removing files with -rf switch. I cringe everytime I see it. Every few days I remind myself of this.... then I have to delete another directory with a git repository in it, and end up add the -f in again
rmgit()
{
git status
read -p "Are you sure? " -n 1 -r
echo
if [[ $REPLY =~ ^[Yy]$ ]]
then
rm .git -rf
fi
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you could generally assume someone who was doing so had been thoroughly trained No amount of training can prevent something like this. It's like today's browsers where the tab can be closed with ctrl+w and the whole window with ctrl+q. It doesn't matter how many times you've done it and how used are you to the position of the 'w'. One day you will close the whole window by accident.
IMO the fact that we have multiple examples of these kinds of accident-prone key pairs does partially exonerate whoever did this particular F6/F7 bit.
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#198I often suspect that most of the work involved in keeping a power hierarchy going, is involved with trying to pretend that this kind of shit doesn't happen all the time.
And then conspiracy theorists latch onto this kind of shit, but believe that it must be malicious silliness... Why didn't Reagan respond immediately? Well, he was waiting to hear from Chancellor Gorkon that the KAL flight had been successfully beamed aboard and was en route to Pluto, of course... Clearly they'd have their shit together better so it couldn't have been a 23-year old rebooting all the computers accident…
It's comforting to think that people can control the direction of every choice in the world, and that someone is at the helm.
It's uncomfortable to think about the daily series of random, unconnected decisions that drive the direction of our species.
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#199No. This is something you would read in Design of Everyday Things where Don Norman would totally shame the the engineers who made that system. Software shouldn't be designed with the assumption that no one makes errors.
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
That button needs a safeguard even if it's not an international incident. Even if only one person would lose a few hours' work from an all-nighter, work for something that's not so important, it's still someone's work. And given that it's right next to a 'single terminal reset' key, it should be immediately obvious to anyone who's ever used a keyboard - mistakes can and do happen, even when you're fluent.
And yet, to this day, Firefox has both Ctrl-Q (close all Firefox windows without prompting) and its neighbor Ctrl-W (close current tab) and refuses to change that or provide remappable keyboard shortcuts. One of the biggest UI failures I'm aware of in 2014. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52821
The first thing I do on a new Firefox installation is enable "Restore all tabs on startup".