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The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by gtaylor »

nine_k wrote: post #173
gtaylor wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally, I get notifications of maintenance outages every month with DO in NYC1 and NYC2. These are exceedingly, exceedingly rare with Linode's Atlanta DC. Also, stolen CPU on my DO boxes is super high, whereas this is very rare on Linode. You have less neighbors.

Most of the notifications are about "short periods of higher latency and packet loss", which I can totally tolerate. The last "5-10 minutes disconnect" happened in November 2013.

If it were just higher latency, I'd agree. But packet loss is a bit different.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by gtaylor »

coolestuk wrote: post #187
gtaylor wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally, I get notifications of maintenance outages every month with DO in NYC1 and NYC2. These are exceedingly, exceedingly rare with Linode's Atlanta DC. Also, stolen CPU on my DO boxes is super high, whereas this is very rare on Linode. You have less neighbors.

My experience is the reverse. My $5 DO server running almost identical software responds much faster than my Linode server. The Linode server is far, far closer to me geographically. I have put this down to the DO SSDs. It will be interesting to see if this is true. I've been considering migrating from Lindoe to DO because they were faster and cheaper. I've had 2 DO VPS for about 6 months, and never had a problem wit…

> My $5 DO server running almost identical software responds much faster than my Linode server.

Faster how? This doesn't tell us anything.

> I have put this down to the DO SSDs

Linode now uses SSDs, too. And server-grade ones at that.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by nine_k »

gtaylor wrote: post #162
mwcampbell wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see that distinction at all. Both Linode and DO provide persistent local storage. Both let you resize your server. And now, they're competitive on price; Linode even has hourly billing. Granted, DO has lower-end plans than Linode. But I don't see any indication that DO treats servers as disposable or fungible whereas Linode doesn't.

> But I don't see any indication that DO treats servers as disposable or fungible whereas Linode doesn't. I'm not sure "disposable" is a good word to describe DO's approach. We do know that they cram a lot more people per host machine, though. That may be where the "treat VMs like cattle" statement was getting at. You need only fire up a few instances of comparable type, get some CPU load, and watch some basic metric…

I suppose they do it because load on a typical instance is low. Probably $5 instances are mostly hosting services like low-volume blogs, personal home pages, ssh/vpn tunnels, etc.

OTOH the lowest ($20) tier on Linode is probably used by more serious projects that, on average, exert considerable load.

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by gingerlime »

giulianob wrote: post #175
__xtrimsky wrote: post #172

I still prefer OVH.com http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml for $7 you get: 2 cores 2GB RAM for 10$ you get: 3 cores 4GB RAM They don't have SSD, but SSD doesn't do everything, I prefer more ram. EDIT: If some of you don't know OVH, it's because its new in America, but its not some cheap company, it's a European company that is very successful there. And just recently created a datacenter in North America. (I us…

Can you run https://github.com/mgutz/vpsbench and see how the performance is to compare?

vpsbench on a 2Gb fresh Linode in Dallas

  ```
  CPU model:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz
  Number of cores: 2
  CPU frequency:  2800.050 MHz
  Total amount of RAM: 1993 MB
  Total amount of swap: 511 MB
  System uptime:   0 min,       
  I/O speed:  811 MB/s
  Bzip 25MB: 4.93s
  Download 100MB file: 19.1MB/s
  ```

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by nilved »

Linode's recent upgrades are awesome, but people are very quick to forget the period where they were being hacked left and right and didn't communicate with their customers until a defensive blog post weeks after the fact. No matter how good the servers may be, Linode should be a non-starter for anybody who cares about the security of their droplet; and, if you don't, why would you pay Linode's premium fee?

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by __xtrimsky »

Could someone please explain what improvements can we get from SSD for web applications ?

I know it would read files faster, but in most cases reading a couple of PHP files is not such a big improvement.

My guess would be maybe databases ? Read time improvement for MySQL ?

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by vbtechguy »

chc wrote: post #142
mwcampbell wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see that distinction at all. Both Linode and DO provide persistent local storage. Both let you resize your server. And now, they're competitive on price; Linode even has hourly billing. Granted, DO has lower-end plans than Linode. But I don't see any indication that DO treats servers as disposable or fungible whereas Linode doesn't.

I don't think anyone's ever gotten good hard numbers, but just from having seen a lot of people's anecdata over the years, my general impression is that Digital Ocean seems to have more short-term outages and to oversubscribe their boxes a bit more.

that's probably due to the massive surge in growth and growing pains for DO

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by wcfields »

rschmitty wrote: post #39
morganherlocker wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use a tiny VPS provider that is actually $20/yr. For sites that get a couple thousand hits per month it is perfect. Although I do not see it as a requirement in this price range, the uptime has been on par with the big names (I have known of one 5 hour outage in the 3 years I have been using it). Even DO's $5/mo now seems a bit steep now for the "I just had a random idea" type thing.

Care to share the provider you are using?

I use INIZ[1] 1GB for only $25 a year from a lowendbox special[2]. I don't use it for much so I can't speak with quality/uptime/anything beyond testing/experimentation.

  1GB-YEARLY
  3 vCores
  1GB RAM
  512MB vSwap
  50GB RAID10 Disk
  1TB Outbound BW
  1 IPv4 and 1 IPv6
  OpenVZ/SolusVM
[1] http://iniz.com/

[2] http://lowendbox.com/blog/iniz-yearly-deals-and-more-25year-...

Re: The New Linode Cloud: SSDs, Double RAM and much more

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Post by ac29 »

jaequery wrote: post #60
relaxatorium wrote: post #7

This seems pretty fantastic, I am excited to upgrade and think the SSD storage is going to be really helpful for improving the performance of my applications hosted there. That said, I am not an expert on CPU virtualization but I did notice that the new plans are differently phrased than the old ones here. The old plans all talked about 8 CPU cores with various 1x, 2x priority levels ( https://blog.linode.com/2013/04…

cpu counts dont mean much in terms of performance. but from a strict performance standpoint, their E5 2680's are amongst the tops in the industry ( http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html ). i'm pretty sure DO's is somewhere around 1/10th the performance of Linode's in terms of CPU power. you are getting a really good deal here w/ Linode, I dont think any cloud providers are at this level right now.

Amazon also uses E5-2680 v2 on their C3 instance types, and E5-2670 v2 on R3 types.
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