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Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Post by szatkus »

jacobbudin wrote: post #149
cheez wrote: post #101

I clicked "12 years a slave", a movie I have not yet had an opportunity to watch and it started streaming in less than a minute in high quality. I immediately quit the application as it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Please, movie people, let me pay for this. You might kill the cinemas, but you'll still get paid.

> Please, movie people, let me pay for this. Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ICSVLPA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/12-years-a-slave/id7403669... And many others: http://www.foxdigitalhd.com/12-years-a-slave Sony could not have made it any easier to get this film into your living room. (Regardless, I don't think media companies have an obligation to make their content av…

"Amazon Instant Video (formerly Amazon Video On Demand and LoveFilm Instant) is an Internet video on demand service offered by Amazon in the United States, United Kingdom, Germany and Japan."

iTunes: I don't see renting option.

Fox Digital: "United States Brazil Mexico Canada Italia Australia Deutschland Belgium Holland United Kingdom España France"

ARRRR!

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Post by Zikes »

smokeyj wrote: post #184
JPKab wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a left of center guy, but this kind of thinking is a very ugly slippery slope. Its not that anyone should always expect to pay for things that are beneficial, its the fact that people who very recently WORKED to create the very thing you are benefiting from should be PAID for their work. If everyone followed your logic, we wouldn't have 12 Years A Slave. The props cost money. The costumes cost money. The cameras…

Did you know walking is the leading cause of taxi cab unemployment? You should really consider the ugly nature of walking next time you decide not to cab it up. Taxis cost money, and their kids eat food.

The difference between taking a taxi and walking are significant. For your analogy to work you must alter it in one of two ways:

1. You hijack the taxi and demand the driver take you to your destination for free. This creates an equivalent or better experience for the consumer at zero or near-zero cost.

2. Instead of clicking a button and watching 12 Years a Slave, you get a crudely animated version pieced together by drawings crowdsourced from 1st grade students around the nation, and voiced entirely by Gilbert Gottfried.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Post by mcv »

johncoltrane wrote: post #171
malka wrote: post #118

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We have the same 'private copy' tax in France. It is a tax on ALL storages (proportional to the size) to take a fee in the case you would use the storage for copyrighted stuff. While it does not make download legal, in my opinion it makes it ethical. I paid a tax on it, I might as well use it.

A tax that was worth 193.000.000 € in 2011. Not enough to balance the alleged losses but… not bad, I guess. "Les flux financiers de la Rémunération pour Copie Privée": http://bit.ly/1fn0PqX

Alleged by whom? Note that the record industry had a habit of making totally ridiculous claims concerning their losses.

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Post by judk »

psykovsky wrote: post #175
cscurmudgeon wrote: post #155

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Ah. This old argument again. It would make sense if people actually support artists. Every time some one brings this up in real life, I ask them for instances where they have actually supported somebody.

Supporting them doesn't mean paying for million dollar mansions and vehicles.

The gaffer doesn't have a mansion.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Post by freyr »

ElDiablo666 wrote: post #187
cscurmudgeon wrote: post #155

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Ah. This old argument again. It would make sense if people actually support artists. Every time some one brings this up in real life, I ask them for instances where they have actually supported somebody.

Ah this old misdirection. There is no shortage of evidence of voluntary payments for creative works so stop spreading bullshit. How far do you move the goalposts when people mention examples like the Humble Bundles, Nine Inch Nails, etc.?

Nine Inch Nails, etc.?

Go on. You might be able to cite Radiohead's In Rainbows. Did these new distribution models flourish, or were they one-off experiments? NIN's new album is available online now for a fixed price.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Post by wmeredith »

Recoil42 wrote: post #151
quadrangle wrote: post #116

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> it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Nonsense. I benefit from the work of Mozart and feel no need to compensate anyone. There are real issues with funding mechanisms and creative work in a shareable digital world, but we can reject the idea that you should always pay for anything that is beneficial. If you want to give gifts to creative folks you like, you can…

>I benefit from the work of Mozart and feel no need to compensate anyone. Well, Mozart is dead, for one thing...

Exactly. Inn a few hundred years, 12 Years a Slave will be free to watch. But people don't want to wait that long, so they pay or steal.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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Post by mcv »

smokeyj wrote: post #184
JPKab wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a left of center guy, but this kind of thinking is a very ugly slippery slope. Its not that anyone should always expect to pay for things that are beneficial, its the fact that people who very recently WORKED to create the very thing you are benefiting from should be PAID for their work. If everyone followed your logic, we wouldn't have 12 Years A Slave. The props cost money. The costumes cost money. The cameras…

Did you know walking is the leading cause of taxi cab unemployment? You should really consider the ugly nature of walking next time you decide not to cab it up. Taxis cost money, and their kids eat food.

If taxis go out of business, you can still walk. If people stop making new movies, you can't watch new movies.

(You can still watch old movies of course, so if you restrict your downloading to old movies, and not fairly recent releases, your argument works.)

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Post by res0nat0r »

humanrebar wrote: post #172
res0nat0r wrote: post #170

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So do you tell your boss he is free to pay or not pay you based on his mood for the week? And you are Ok with that yes?

There's probably a good analogy somewhere, but that isn't it. I don't have a contract with any movie production studio.

Actually you do. You pay the price they ask to consume their content, or you don't consume it. Hence why doing so without paying is illegal.

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Post by Zikes »

humanrebar wrote: post #159
hershel wrote: post #59

I think if this idea of equivalence between paid and pirated content is taken to it's logical extreme, the result will be less movies being produced. Maybe it's preferable to keep it as is today: piracy as an option for some and as a force against too much control from the content industry.

Why shouldn't the cost of entertainment naturally drop as more high-quality content is produced? And if that's the case, aren't big-budget productions already living on borrowed time? To explain, entertainment is fungible, and today we have an embarrassment of entertaining riches: books, hangouts, news, board games, video games, music, TV, social web, sporting events, etc. Almost all of these things can be distribute…

That's an interesting take on it. Even in a single entertainment category it can often feel like the supply far outstrips demand, especially if my morbidly obese Steam library is considered.
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