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Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by grey-area » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:27 AM UTC

njharman wrote: post #149

grey-area wrote: post #136

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Why would people email credit card details?

Because it's not that big of a deal. People's CC number is everywhere. In databases, on receipts, etc. It's a little more risky but so are many things people do daily like owning a Ford truck (some of the most stolen vehicles) or using ATMs.

Because it's not that big of a deal. People's CC number is everywhere. In databases, on receipts, etc.

Where I live the full no is not stored on receipts, and in dbs it must be encrypted. I think emailing CC numbers around would be breaking PCI compliance, and that would be a big deal. There's no way I'd email a CC number.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by baddox » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 5:36 PM UTC

eli wrote: post #184

baddox wrote: post #116

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There's a big difference between saying there's something on the Internet for no great cause (stop the presses!) and saying that something on the Internet is causing unfair personal damage.

When is it ever fair to cause someone personal damage? Doesn't there need to be some greater, overriding justification? If not then isn't this just internet mob justice (and as usual, if there's some collateral damage, so be it)?

> When is it ever fair to cause someone personal damage?

A lot of the time. For example, it's fair to rat out a cop who acts inappropriately or give a negative review to an eBay seller who scams you.

Re: Wikileaks publishes 500k new Stratfor emails

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Post by BrandonMarc » Tue, Nov 19, 2013, 4:34 PM UTC

woah wrote: post #125

BrandonMarc wrote: post #118

I'm a supporter of the idea of WikiLeaks, if not all of their decisions ... now here's what bugs me: why is it rare (or never) that we see mass dumps of Russian, Chinese, or Pakistani intelligence information? What, there's no corruption, profiteering, or otherwise bad vibes over there? The US has a monopoly on all that? Why does it always have to hurt US intelligence activities (yes: some deserve to be hurt, but jus…

Are you serious? http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:China

Open mouth, insert foot I suppose. Though this leads me to a second question, equally interesting ... why haven't I heard of this? Aside from the obvious (I've never looked directly for it), there are two aspects at play - my own filtering, and the editorial decisions of the news organizations.

For the former, I aim for diversity, but it's hard to know you're getting the "full story" as well as what's a "credible source" when all you have is what's already available to you.

For the latter, none of us is immune to this influence, unless we operate our own news / fact-finding outlet, and then our internal biases still provide an umwelt [0] that's hard to escape.

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[0] http://xkcd.com/1037/