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Firefox 25 is released

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Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by eieio »

Siecje wrote: post #178
jakub_g wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ad 5: change "mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_y" in about:config ad 4: you can create a bookmark, edit its "location" and "keyword" accordingly. "%s" is the placeholder for the text you type. E.g. Location: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%s Keyword: g Usage: Type "g whatever" in the URL bar to launch google search for "whatever". You just need to extract the minimal URL and place "%s" accordingly.…

re 5: I don't mind the speed at which it scrolls, I just want one scroll wheel tick to be less. re 4: I do have the keyword 'g' set up but it is still easier to not type g[space] everytime. And yes there is ctrl +k but it is still easier in chrome with just one location.

If your problem is specifically with "define", you could set up a bookmark to http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=define:%s with the keyword "define:". Just checked and firefox doesn't complain about the colon in that case.

For the more general case, I agree that firefox can be a bit annoying about treating any address with a : as some kind of protocol. It occasionally bytes me when doing things like trying to google a Python error via copy-paste.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by mburns »

skybrian wrote: post #161
lobster_johnson wrote: post #105

Wow, on my MacBook Pro Retina, Firefox is now faster than Chrome. It's noticeable during any graphics update, scrolling pages in particular. I wonder if this is because Firefox has been optimized, or whether Chrome has simply stagnated. I suspect it's the latter; when I got the Retina MBP I immediately noticed that graphics performance was laggy compared to what I was used to on my previous (slower but non-Retina) MB…

Maybe try clearing your Chrome cache?

Clearing your cache would make Chrome behave more slowly, because it has to fetch those things over the network again.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by crowleysimon »

Siecje wrote: post #173

My issues with Firefox 1) Signing into Chrome is easier and more intuitive then syncing with a code. Also having your extensions is nice. 2) The Inspect element and console are easier to use in Chrome. (Copy as HTML, etc) 3) I seem to have to click on a YouTube video twice for it to pause in Firefox. 4) Typing search queries in chrome is easier. For example in Firefox, you can't just type define: word to search Googl…

In regards to 4) typing 'define word' without the : should work just fine.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by Sam121 »

moystard wrote: post #42
Sam121 wrote: post #28

It will hang like previous versions ? Unhappy with the performance so i shift to chrome.

I don't understand how you can be unhappy about the performance of the few last versions of Firefox. It is now quite savy in memory (especially in comparison with Chrome) and handles everything I throw at it without noticeable janks.

its depends on my interest and i have freedom to use whatever i want to use if a thing is not working properly.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by BlackDeath3 »

ahoge wrote: post #134
josefresco wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe this comment was meant to be sarcastic, but the version number is not an indication of progress as it was with prior development. When Chrome went all nutty with frequent new version numbers, Mozilla followed suit.

You know that there is a point to it, right? Now there are always 4 versions: fresh nightly builds, dev, beta, and stable. Every ~6 weeks dev becomes beta and beta becomes the new stable version. This way you get a higher degree of parallelization. There is no global feature or whatever freeze. New stuff is added all the time. The version number is now basically just a step counter.

Can't wait for Firefox 150!

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by snogglethorpe »

contextual wrote: post #175

Mad respect to the contributors and developers of Firefox. I've been loving the updates lately. Firefox has become my browser of choice again :)

It's quite amazing really. FF is a really big project with a complex highly-layered codebase that has to work on a lot of very different platforms (and not just the most recent versions either); changes that might seem simple in the abstract can be very difficult to make in practice. And yet despite this, recently it seems like they're just flying: not only are releases more frequent, but each release seems to contain significant improvements, both in functionality and speed/robustness.

How exactly they manage to pull this off I don't know, but mad props seem apropos... :]

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by qwerty_asdf »

kevingadd wrote: post #96
qwerty_asdf wrote: post #14

I find it irritating that Mozilla now herds its Firefox users toward the Stub installer, and not the full offline-install redistributable binary. The actual download itself is available on the "Systems & Languages" page: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ This kind of download is important, when you want to try out a new release, without committing yourself to it. For example, let's say you want to load it…

Large downloads dramatically decrease the number of users who get from a download page to actually running an application, even for web browsers. As a result, any steps you can take to make an install process faster or easier will have a tangible impact on the number of customers you have (and any revenue potential that results). Mozilla, like any other company, has salaries to pay, so they would be foolish to make t…

  > Large downloads dramatically decrease the number of 
  > users who get from a download page to actually running 
  > an application
I think I almost entirely agree with you on that.

  > they would be foolish to make things worse for the 
  > majority of users
I'm arguing that this provision (clearly pointing the way toward an offline install) would not make things worse for anyone.

  > just to make them slightly easier for theoretical users
I am not a "theoretical" user. I am an actual user.

  > ...do things like pick your install directory, and then 
  > forget about the install process entirely as it 
  > completes without your supervision. That's a good thing, 
  > and it isn't possible with offline installers.
What?! What are you even talking about? I can pick my install directory with the full installer. I double click the icon, it asks me for the directory, it runs, and then the end.

Firefox's installer is dead simple, and believe me, I am HUGELY grateful for that. The only thing easier than the Windows installer is unzipping the Linux tarball into whatever path I choose. I hate Adobe's Flash and PDF installers, and I fucking DESPISE the Java installer, with its damnable bundling of that bloody Ask.com toolbar.

Seeing Firefox add these additional layers of background updater services and stub installers deeply worries me, and fills me with concern that as a "salary paying organization" (albeit, ostensibly non-profit), they might veer down an ugly path, go the way of the Sith, and start engaging in questionable behavior that is inappropriate for an open source project.

Consider the example of Ubuntu's desktop file search bundling Amazon ads in the results. What if one day, Mozilla decides that in order to pay the bills, it needs to negotiate a deal, whereby all those users with automatic updating enabled should get railroaded with some kind of optional-but-defaulted-to-enabled third party feature suggesting helpful reminders to buy more burritos from Jimbo's Refried Beans Emporium. Just sayin'...

  > Browsers like Firefox and Chrome already need network 
  > access after installation anyway.
Not to do things without my permission, they don't. This "need" business... I disagree.

A browser only "needs" to to exactly what I ask it to do, and not much else. I tell the browser what to do, not the other way around.

  > They update on a regular basis, and pull down optional
Optional. That's an important adjective in your sentence.

  > packages like Chrome's software WebGL rasterizer, 
  > malware blacklists, and Firefox's GPU blacklist.
Yeah, the very same blacklist that I'm frequently bypassing to check out all the cool Web GL experiments people post here on HN. I know all about that.

Malware blacklists are another concept that I tend to reject as mostly ineffective in achieving their stated goal. We could go round and around with that argument for days. Let's not get started on THAT can of worms.

  > So, in practice, it is already impossible to do a true 
  > offline install of either browser; you just may not be 
  > aware of the things that are left out of the installer.
When you use the word "impossible", I have to just flatly disagree with you. And in general, most of the things that you mentioned are things that I don't care about, and will never be interested in.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by Siecje »

crowleysimon wrote: post #194
Siecje wrote: post #173

My issues with Firefox 1) Signing into Chrome is easier and more intuitive then syncing with a code. Also having your extensions is nice. 2) The Inspect element and console are easier to use in Chrome. (Copy as HTML, etc) 3) I seem to have to click on a YouTube video twice for it to pause in Firefox. 4) Typing search queries in chrome is easier. For example in Firefox, you can't just type define: word to search Googl…

In regards to 4) typing 'define word' without the : should work just fine.

Wow thanks
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